Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US.

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Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US.

Author: BaronVonZemo (61067 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 2:39 pm on Aug 9, 2025

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Zelensky is in no way being hindered from carrying on this war without the US if he rejects a compromise deal. Sadly, thanks to Biden there is really no alternative other than endless war, more death, and possibly WWIII.
Perhaps the EU feels differently - they can figure that out.

If Putin is intransigent, then the US will have to stay in to prevent further aggression.

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Replies to: "Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US."

Zelenskyy isn’t helping matters. [NT] - Hensou - 8:11am 8/9/25 (47) [View All]
- Moron Alert: HENSOU - OCIrish - 10:17pm 8/11/25
- He can do a deal or he will lose more men and more land. The - Cole - 1:40pm 8/9/25
  - Of course, Vlad. Hey, where’s your buddy, Eli? Did ICE catch up with him?… - Domer From Hell - 1:47pm 8/9/25
    - What a stupid post. I think even Mark would agree with me. [NT] - Cole - 2:24pm 8/9/25
      - So, ICE did catch up with your boy. Oh the irony. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:26pm 8/9/25
- Yeah, he stubbornly keeps defending his nation - Chris94 - 9:26am 8/9/25
  - He’s like a guy who needs a lower leg amputation to save his life and refuses the operation. [NT] - Hensou - 9:34am 8/9/25
    - Good analogy except there is a shark on his leg and if he doesn't cut it off, it'll eat him whole. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:34pm 8/9/25
    - Utter stupidity [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:45pm 8/9/25
- He doesn’t want peace & certainly not the only viable resolution…. - BaronVonZemo - 8:45am 8/9/25
  - Ridiculous. “He doesn’t want peace.” His nation has been invaded… - Domer From Hell - 10:29am 8/9/25
    - Yes, and he would have to face elections & give up power. He's just less bad. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:21pm 8/9/25
      - Get acquainted with the Ukrainian Constitution. No elections during a state of martial law. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:24pm 8/9/25
    - And he is worried Trump will give Putin whatever he wants - Chris94 - 10:41am 8/9/25
      - What is your endpoint, junior? - BaronVonZemo - 2:28pm 8/9/25
      - Yep. Trump already said he believes there will be lost territory… - Domer From Hell - 10:45am 8/9/25
- Because he’s not submissive to Putin? [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:41am 8/9/25
  - Like Obama when Putin invaded Crimea? Like Biden when he gave his Green Light speech to Putin? - BaronVonZemo - 8:58am 8/9/25
    - What would you have done if you were in charge during those incidents?… - Domer From Hell - 10:33am 8/9/25
      - I know-we've covered this. But he banned all rival political parties & closed the churches. Those - BaronVonZemo - 2:26pm 8/9/25
        Nope. He outlawed the Russian “puppets” and rightly so. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
        Rival parites became "Russian puppets", eh? I stand by my post. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:31pm 8/9/25
        Here you go… - Domer From Hell - 2:34pm 8/9/25
        How does this not fit with dictatorship? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:36pm 8/9/25
        You always fall back on that false premise. Once again and I’ll type slowly… - Domer From Hell - 2:41pm 8/9/25
        I understand that. He is still behaving like a dictator & not always in best interests of his people [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
        What’s best for his people? Ceding territory, appeasing Putin? - Domer From Hell - 2:50pm 8/9/25
        You have to be alive to enjoy territory. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:33pm 8/9/25
        So,, surrender is the only option. Got it [NT] - Domer From Hell - 7:23pm 8/9/25
        No. Just accept the loss and be proud of what you saved - best that could've been done given - BaronVonZemo - 1:49am 8/10/25
        Accept the loss = surrender. I don’t see the Ukraine surrendering… - Domer From Hell - 2:05am 8/10/25
        
        Rival parties that were Putin cocksuckers…yes and most if not all of them were [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:32pm 8/9/25
        Z claims that...and all 11 of them? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:35pm 8/9/25
        Yes and I believe he’d know better than you. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:42pm 8/9/25
        So, we are to trust him....the guy who has grabbed the power.... - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 8/9/25
        We? I trust him and people with common sense trust him, but you people… - Domer From Hell - 3:13pm 8/9/25
        
        . [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:27pm 8/9/25
      - I'd have bolstered them from the start before they came in, Not allowed our aid for their pipeline, - BaronVonZemo - 2:24pm 8/9/25
        Bolstered what and with who? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:44pm 8/9/25
        With the arms they asked for that Biden wouldn't give them until weeks after the actual invasion - BaronVonZemo - 2:47pm 8/9/25
        No you wouldn’t have. You’re a Trumper. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 2:52pm 8/9/25
  - He’s in no position to dictate absolutes. [NT] - Hensou - 8:47am 8/9/25
    - Libs wrongly think Trump is negotiating for Zelensky. He is not. He is negotiating for the US. - BaronVonZemo - 2:39pm 8/9/25
      - Exactly. - Hensou - 6:25pm 8/9/25
      - Ha! No one is mistaking these negotiations as help to the Ukraine. Trump’s main concern is the… - Domer From Hell - 2:47pm 8/9/25