You have to open your mind and look at the facts. They point to:
1) a monster who invaded - Putin
2) an authoritarian ruler wannabe who appears using the situation for his own grab of power and wealth, and who needs the war to continue at all costs.
There have been enough signs of it. I am not saying that this is definite, but I am saying that we should be wary of it.
I hope that I am wrong, but I suspect that if Trump somehow brokers a compromise deal with Russia, Zelensky will do something himself to scuttle the deal.
Because Putin is so bad, there is a tendency to just assume that the other side so good. But Ukraine govt was one of the most corrupt nations in the world before the attack (known to both R’s and D’s - see Burisma as a small example). Uk being attacked unfairly might have eliminated that corruption, but I doubt it.
I have no illusions about Putin. But all 11 parties eliminated by Z were not “Putin Sympathizers”.
Replies to: "I have no illusions about Putin. But all 11 parties eliminated by Z were not “Putin Sympathizers”."
- 70% of Ukrainians want a negotiated peace. [LINK]
- MAS - 10:37pm 8/13/25
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- Trump is probably their best bet to get out of this. Protracted war is not a good thing for them. - LanceManion - 8:53am 8/14/25
- Putin has a Czarist/Soviet mindset. The people can be brutalized into ANYTHING. - Curly1918 - 9:33am 8/14/25
- 100%. I think Ukraine can get out of this by ceding some territory, but there need to be protection - LanceManion - 10:07am 8/14/25
- Don't forget Crimea...this is Putin's second strike...and also don't forget the lessons learned from - TyroneIrish - 3:52pm 8/14/25
- Conservatives want nothing to do with Obama/Biden's wars - i.e., Crimea and Ukraine [NT] - LanceManion - 5:02pm 8/14/25
- Don't forget Crimea...this is Putin's second strike...and also don't forget the lessons learned from - TyroneIrish - 3:52pm 8/14/25
- 100%. I think Ukraine can get out of this by ceding some territory, but there need to be protection - LanceManion - 10:07am 8/14/25
- Putin has a Czarist/Soviet mindset. The people can be brutalized into ANYTHING. - Curly1918 - 9:33am 8/14/25
- Unsurprising. It’s part of why Zelensky eliminated all political opposition. [NT]
- BaronVonZemo - 7:56am 8/14/25
- I think you mean Putin sumpathizers. [LINK]
- Curly1918 - 8:35am 8/14/25
- I have no illusions about Putin. But all 11 parties eliminated by Z were not “Putin Sympathizers”. - BaronVonZemo - 9:04am 8/14/25
- We already covered this, but feel free to beliefe what you want… [NT]
[LINK]
- Domer From Hell - 9:25am 8/14/25
- Which, of course, is what they would claim to seize control. A catch 22. But… - BaronVonZemo - 9:39am 8/14/25
- I’m OK with a compromised peace deal, but to what extent? - Domer From Hell - 9:49am 8/14/25
- I'd like to ensure Ukraine access to the Black Sea for economic survival. This map is depressing [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 10:02am 8/14/25
- I’m OK with a compromised peace deal, but to what extent? - Domer From Hell - 9:49am 8/14/25
- Which, of course, is what they would claim to seize control. A catch 22. But… - BaronVonZemo - 9:39am 8/14/25
- We already covered this, but feel free to beliefe what you want… [NT]
[LINK]
- Domer From Hell - 9:25am 8/14/25
- I have no illusions about Putin. But all 11 parties eliminated by Z were not “Putin Sympathizers”. - BaronVonZemo - 9:04am 8/14/25
- I think you mean Putin sumpathizers. [LINK]
- Curly1918 - 8:35am 8/14/25
- Why wouldn’t they? They’ve been at war for 3 + years. - conorlarkin - 7:21am 8/14/25
- You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth at once. - BaronVonZemo - 8:21am 8/14/25
- Quite the contrary. You want the abused spouse to accept the demands of her Ahole spouse. - conorlarkin - 9:04am 8/14/25
- Baron spouts Putin’s talking points so well and then says he has “no illusions” about him… - TyroneIrish - 1:28pm 8/14/25
- Uk people want a compromise peace. You want war to continue from your comfy chair cuz it - BaronVonZemo - 9:18am 8/14/25
- Quite the contrary. You want the abused spouse to accept the demands of her Ahole spouse. - conorlarkin - 9:04am 8/14/25
- You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth at once. - BaronVonZemo - 8:21am 8/14/25
- And what about Putin’s serfs? Cool with dying for a puny crypto-czar? [NT] - Curly1918 - 5:36am 8/14/25
- Define “negotiated.” [NT]
- Domer From Hell - 11:12pm 8/13/25
- Better to ask the Ukrainian people. - MAS - 11:31pm 8/13/25
- You can bet that a whole lot more Ukrainians would die under Putin if he gets his way...he won't - TyroneIrish - 11:58pm 8/13/25
- I hear you, but think about it… - Domer From Hell - 11:37pm 8/13/25
- There ar those on the American Left who want this war for their own political gain at the expense of - BaronVonZemo - 8:09am 8/14/25
- Name them, exactly who are you talking about when you make this comment? - Quest4twelve - 8:23am 8/14/25
- There ar those on the American Left who want this war for their own political gain at the expense of - BaronVonZemo - 8:09am 8/14/25
- Better to ask the Ukrainian people. - MAS - 11:31pm 8/13/25
- Trump is probably their best bet to get out of this. Protracted war is not a good thing for them. - LanceManion - 8:53am 8/14/25