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"...I wouldn't change a thing."...therein lies the problem. Perhaps the attached 'critique' of

Author: TyroneIrish (21454 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:27 pm on Aug 17, 2025
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Libertarians...by a Conservative...will help clear the scales from your eyes...here's an excerpt, but do yourself a favor and read it all...won't take as long as many of your podcasts...

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Burke’s Admonition

When government undertakes objectives far beyond these ends, often government falls into difficulty, not being contrived for the management of the whole of life. Thus far, indeed, conservatives and libertarians hold something in common. But the libertarians, rashly hurrying to the opposite extreme from the welfare state, would deprive government of effective power to conduct the common defense, to restrain the unjust and the passionate, or indeed to carry on a variety of undertakings clearly important to the general welfare. With these failings of the libertarians plain to behold, conservatives are mindful of Edmund Burke’s admonition concerning radical reformers: “Men of intemperate mind never can be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

Thus in the nature of things, conservatives and libertarians can conclude no friendly pact. Adversity sometimes makes strange bedfellows, but the present successes of conservatives disincline them to lie down, lamb-like, with the libertarian lions.

By this time, possibly I have made it sufficiently clear that I am no libertarian. I venture to suggest that libertarianism, properly understood, is as alien to real American conservatives as is communism. The typical conservative in this country believes that there exists an enduring moral order. He knows that order and justice and freedom are the products of a long and often painful social experience, and that they must be protected from abstract radical assaults. He defends custom, habit, tested institutions that have functioned well. He says that the great virtue in politics is prudence: judging any public measure by its long-run consequences. He is attached to a society of diversity and opportunity, and he is suspicious of any ideology that would rule us by a single abstract principle, whether that principle is “equality” or “liberty” or “social justice” or “national greatness.” He recognizes that human nature and society cannot be perfected: politics remains the art of the possible. He adheres to private property and free economic enterprise; he is aware that decent government, repressing violence and fraud, is necessary for the survival of a health economy.

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Here's another famous Edmund Burke quote..."Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little"...ring any bells with your recent posts?


Link: https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2015/02/russell-kirk-a-dispassionate-assessment-of-libertarians.html

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Replies to: ""...I wouldn't change a thing."...therein lies the problem. Perhaps the attached 'critique' of"

  • I'd like to shake this guy's hand, this should be the default mindset [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 8:15pm 8/16/25 (36) [View All]
    • It is easy to be charitable when you are that rich. Very easy to come off as a hero. The rest of us - THEISMANCARR - 7:08am 8/17/25
      • Then why is it so rare? - iairishcheeks - 7:45am 8/17/25
    • Then vote Democrat. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:18pm 8/16/25
      • For the empty rhetoric? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:22pm 8/16/25
        • You voted in November to give tax breaks to billionaires. Make up your mind. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:56pm 8/16/25
          • No I didn't. The Dems are the other party of billionaires. - iairishcheeks - 9:06pm 8/16/25
            • RFK said the Democrats control 60% of the wealth and the Republicans 40%. I may be off 5% each way. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 7:09am 8/17/25
            • 17 million lost healthcare, 18 million kids lost school lunches, etc for Don's billionaire tax cuts. [NT] - ND521 - 12:13am 8/17/25
              • He’s a real thinker that one. Cow people thinkin’ is what he does. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:32am 8/17/25
                • Checkers, never chess. [NT] - ND521 - 1:31am 8/17/25
                  • Connect 4 would be a challenge for you two. [NT] [IMAGE] - iairishcheeks - 7:49am 8/17/25
                    • Only Democrats are willing to correct that imbalance...take action and vote for Democrats. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:24pm 8/17/25
                      • You've had 12 years over the last 16-1/2 years to do that. - iairishcheeks - 2:54pm 8/17/25
                        • Democrats have been fighting for decades to deliver legislation...it takes two to tango, Cheeks... - TyroneIrish - 5:14pm 8/17/25
                          • Facts and data prove you wrong. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:08pm 8/17/25
                            • Here are some of my facts...care to refute them?..Talk's cheap, Cheeks...sooner or later you need to - TyroneIrish - 7:41pm 8/17/25
                              • Refute the chart, dipshit. - iairishcheeks - 8:54pm 8/17/25
                                • Ever seen anything like this from the GOP?...Vote Democrat, Cheeks...or just sit there and continue [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:58pm 8/17/25
                                  • All of the tax simplification, fair tax and like proposals come from the right. - iairishcheeks - 10:10pm 8/17/25
                            • His desperate attempts to normalize a Mamdani reveal him for what he is... - TakethetrainKnute - 7:28pm 8/17/25
                              • I make no apoligies for that...he's not a Communist, in spite of some people's hysterics...and I'd - TyroneIrish - 12:07am 8/18/25
            • Brilliant, Mr. Binary. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:11am 8/17/25
            • Yes, you did foo. [NT] - conorlarkin - 9:07pm 8/16/25
              • I'm trying to imagine what debacles Kamala would have us into. - iairishcheeks - 9:38pm 8/16/25
                • Not targeted the poorest to cut taxes for the richest while adding $3.5 Trillion to the debt. [NT] - ND521 - 12:15am 8/17/25
                  • The poor don't pay federal income taxes, they have a negative effective tax rate after credits. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:31am 8/17/25
                • Remember that you were born with horrific judgment. - conorlarkin - 9:46pm 8/16/25
                  • Hah, yeah right. - iairishcheeks - 9:53pm 8/16/25
                    • Easy there, Cheeks...Biden/Harris Ended the Afghanistan War...highly unlikely KH would have opted - TyroneIrish - 12:06am 8/17/25
                      • You lost to an unlikable felon, at some point introspection would help. - iairishcheeks - 7:26am 8/17/25
                        • DJT’s tanking approval and increasing regret rates highlight the poor choices that Trump voters ma… - TyroneIrish - 4:00pm 8/17/25
                          • Yeah, sure, I wouldn't change a thing. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:21pm 8/17/25
                            • "...I wouldn't change a thing."...therein lies the problem. Perhaps the attached 'critique' of [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:27pm 8/17/25
                              • Even better, play dumb. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:08pm 8/17/25
                        • Just observing the crazy behavior of the libtards on this board - WoodstockIrish - 7:48am 8/17/25
                          • Oh no, these people are real. - iairishcheeks - 7:54am 8/17/25
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