You're trying to save face with a pathetic "but it wasn't technically fraud" defense.

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You're trying to save face with a pathetic "but it wasn't technically fraud" defense.

Author: jakers (14048 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:03 pm on Aug 26, 2025

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Collecting $100MM in charity and then trickling a much lesser percentage through a matrix of bloated bureaucracy is garbage. Just admit it and move on.

Replies to: "You're trying to save face with a pathetic "but it wasn't technically fraud" defense."

LAT..."FireAid's concerts raised $100 million for recovery. Here's how it's being distributed" [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:30pm 8/26/25 (60) [View All]
- Actual information from FireAidLA, KPMG auditors, rather than conspiracy dudes. [NT] [LINK] - ND521 - 8:39pm 8/26/25
  - The actual issue here is that they said the money would directly go to victims. - iairishcheeks - 10:53pm 8/26/25
    - It takes many organizations to address all the disaster issues...organizations have people...people - TyroneIrish - 11:34pm 8/26/25
      - "Directly to the victims"! [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:37pm 8/26/25
        FireAid's mission was built to support known and vetted local non-profits...and as the LA Times - TyroneIrish - 11:42am 8/27/25
        Bands and people donated on the premise that the money raised would "Go directly to the victims" - iairishcheeks - 6:24pm 8/27/25
        
        Precisely. No full audit presented. [NT] - Hensou - 9:09am 8/27/25
        If you'd spend more time researching instead of carping, you'd know that FireAid has promised a - TyroneIrish - 11:36am 8/27/25
        Precisely. No full audit presented. [NT] - Hensou - 12:08pm 8/27/25
        They're not done yet...there will be an audit at the end of the year...do you have any evidence of - TyroneIrish - 4:12pm 8/27/25
  - Imagine that…Cheeks, Hensou, et al…Hoisted on their own Petard…actually, no surprise there. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:40pm 8/26/25
    - Hardly. Where is the full audit? Once again you live in a fantasy world. [NT] - Hensou - 9:08am 8/27/25
- You're trying to save face with a pathetic "but it wasn't technically fraud" defense. - jakers - 6:03pm 8/26/25
  - Show us evidence of fraud…not innuendos. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:51pm 8/26/25
    - What's funny is that you don't know how the money was stolen, but your instinct is to defend it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:03pm 8/26/25
      - Show us the evidence…it’s a simple request. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:09pm 8/26/25
        Not a lot of structures going up... [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:27pm 8/26/25
        Nice escape try, but “FireAid” is not responsible for the entire Recovery…just so you know… [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:43pm 8/26/25
        You wanted evidence, I provided some that could not be disputed by your gamesmanship to avoid truth. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:54pm 8/26/25
        The truth is that your JR video was nothing but an 'Innuendo Fest' with NO supporting evidence...you - TyroneIrish - 11:39pm 8/26/25
        Here's a local report, why are defending this BS? [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 9:53am 8/27/25
        It was a simple and worthwhile question. Tyrone obfuscates purely because it's his role here. - TakethetrainKnute - 10:11am 8/27/25
        I think we need legislation to clean up this whole NGO/Non-Profit grift. - iairishcheeks - 10:27am 8/27/25
        
        He's trying to run and hide behind a strawman again. [NT] - jakers - 10:56pm 8/26/25
        He continues to defend the indefensible. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:54am 8/27/25
        
        He claims to be an ND grad. I have serious doubts about that. He posts more like a DNC operative. [NT] - Hensou - 9:14am 8/27/25
        He's not, he is faux. He fools nobody [NT] - ColeyO - 11:50am 8/27/25
    - Wow...you really wanted to prove my point. Fail! [NT] - jakers - 7:01pm 8/26/25
      - Quit dancing around…show us the evidence of fraud. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:10pm 8/26/25
        Keep running with the strawman. - jakers - 10:54pm 8/26/25
        
        Jakes floats like butterfly - Hensou - 8:58pm 8/26/25
        That's about the size of him...and his impact...in short...an annoyance without substance. We'll see - TyroneIrish - 11:43pm 8/26/25
        You can die from a bee sting. We can only hope. - Hensou - 7:14am 8/27/25
- Still ignoring Mark’s suggestions? - Hensou - 5:31pm 8/26/25
  - No consequences ever [NT] - ColeyO - 9:17pm 8/26/25
  - Any substance to your post?…I’ll hold my breath ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:53pm 8/26/25
    - What an illogically stupid post by you. - Hensou - 8:32pm 8/26/25
      - HOF UHND Poster!?...pshaw...I've got my sights set on a Nobel Peace Prize...heck if a Felon, Rapist - TyroneIrish - 11:48pm 8/26/25
        You delusions are boring Tyrone. [NT] - Hensou - 9:07am 8/27/25
- . [NT] - Hensou - 4:42pm 8/26/25
- It was a non-profit scam like the USAID model that is intentionally obfuscated [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 4:37pm 8/26/25
  - No...You show us some documented fraud...surely you have more than idle questions w/o substance - TyroneIrish - 4:54pm 8/26/25
    - Read the article TTTK posted below, one thing is obvious you don't give a rats ass about the victims [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:56pm 8/26/25
      - I'd like to see the evidence of fraud coming from you, Cheeks...I'll wait. - TyroneIrish - 5:07pm 8/26/25
        He’s given it clearly. You ignored it. - Hensou - 6:12pm 8/26/25
        Oh, so you’ve got the evidence of fraud …show it to us. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:08pm 8/26/25
        Already presented. [NT] - Hensou - 7:55pm 8/26/25
        No it hasn't. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:13pm 8/27/25
        
        We want me to investigate this personally? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:10pm 8/26/25
        You posted the Joe Rogan video that turned out to be nothing but innuendos…it’s your responsibility - TyroneIrish - 6:58pm 8/26/25
        It went to NGOs, not victims, that much is clear. - iairishcheeks - 7:11pm 8/26/25
        
        He demands irrefutable proof yet produces none. [NT] - Hensou - 6:28pm 8/26/25
        Read the L.A. Times article I posted hours ago…has documented proof - TyroneIrish - 7:06pm 8/26/25
        That article is hot garbage. It never addresses where the money actually went. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:12pm 8/26/25
        There are several examples cited...and at the end of the year KPMG will conduct a full audit... - TyroneIrish - 11:54am 8/27/25
        
        Totally agree. - Hensou - 8:25pm 8/26/25
        Hey, I've provided the LA Times article that proves FireAid has provided a great deal of aid to - TyroneIrish - 12:02pm 8/27/25
        The article is garbage. You dream the impossible dream: logical relevance. [NT] - Hensou - 12:26pm 8/27/25
        Per Mark's admonition, you should be providing substantive evidence to back up your claim that the - TyroneIrish - 4:16pm 8/27/25
  - Just asking questions still [NT] - Quest4twelve - 4:49pm 8/26/25