It was a simple and worthwhile question. Tyrone obfuscates purely because it's his role here.

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It was a simple and worthwhile question. Tyrone obfuscates purely because it's his role here.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33713 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:11 am on Aug 27, 2025

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My guess is he feels he's protecting California somehow. No real idea and certainly not worth spending any time on.

The issue is how much of aid gets eaten up as it cycles through non-profits. There doesn't have to be "fraud" per se but, if administrative costs eat up nearly all of the aid, what is the difference to the people who are supposed to receive the assistance?

It's a valid concern worth exploring. (Anyone who involves a non-profit should do a due diligence on how much of the money donated actually gets to those in need. Those running FireAid should have done that and been honest and transparent about the money going to victims of the disaster. It seems they didn't really care and just mouthed that all the money was going to those in need.)

Immediately one guy rides in with irrelevant information. The next tries to hijack the subject to get people arguing about something other than the topic because he has a singular agenda he is trying to further.

Replies to: "It was a simple and worthwhile question. Tyrone obfuscates purely because it's his role here."

LAT..."FireAid's concerts raised $100 million for recovery. Here's how it's being distributed" [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:30pm 8/26/25 (60) [View All]
- Actual information from FireAidLA, KPMG auditors, rather than conspiracy dudes. [NT] [LINK] - ND521 - 8:39pm 8/26/25
  - The actual issue here is that they said the money would directly go to victims. - iairishcheeks - 10:53pm 8/26/25
    - It takes many organizations to address all the disaster issues...organizations have people...people - TyroneIrish - 11:34pm 8/26/25
      - "Directly to the victims"! [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:37pm 8/26/25
        FireAid's mission was built to support known and vetted local non-profits...and as the LA Times - TyroneIrish - 11:42am 8/27/25
        Bands and people donated on the premise that the money raised would "Go directly to the victims" - iairishcheeks - 6:24pm 8/27/25
        
        Precisely. No full audit presented. [NT] - Hensou - 9:09am 8/27/25
        If you'd spend more time researching instead of carping, you'd know that FireAid has promised a - TyroneIrish - 11:36am 8/27/25
        Precisely. No full audit presented. [NT] - Hensou - 12:08pm 8/27/25
        They're not done yet...there will be an audit at the end of the year...do you have any evidence of - TyroneIrish - 4:12pm 8/27/25
  - Imagine that…Cheeks, Hensou, et al…Hoisted on their own Petard…actually, no surprise there. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:40pm 8/26/25
    - Hardly. Where is the full audit? Once again you live in a fantasy world. [NT] - Hensou - 9:08am 8/27/25
- You're trying to save face with a pathetic "but it wasn't technically fraud" defense. - jakers - 6:03pm 8/26/25
  - Show us evidence of fraud…not innuendos. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:51pm 8/26/25
    - What's funny is that you don't know how the money was stolen, but your instinct is to defend it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:03pm 8/26/25
      - Show us the evidence…it’s a simple request. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:09pm 8/26/25
        Not a lot of structures going up... [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 7:27pm 8/26/25
        Nice escape try, but “FireAid” is not responsible for the entire Recovery…just so you know… [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:43pm 8/26/25
        You wanted evidence, I provided some that could not be disputed by your gamesmanship to avoid truth. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:54pm 8/26/25
        The truth is that your JR video was nothing but an 'Innuendo Fest' with NO supporting evidence...you - TyroneIrish - 11:39pm 8/26/25
        Here's a local report, why are defending this BS? [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 9:53am 8/27/25
        It was a simple and worthwhile question. Tyrone obfuscates purely because it's his role here. - TakethetrainKnute - 10:11am 8/27/25
        I think we need legislation to clean up this whole NGO/Non-Profit grift. - iairishcheeks - 10:27am 8/27/25
        
        He's trying to run and hide behind a strawman again. [NT] - jakers - 10:56pm 8/26/25
        He continues to defend the indefensible. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:54am 8/27/25
        
        He claims to be an ND grad. I have serious doubts about that. He posts more like a DNC operative. [NT] - Hensou - 9:14am 8/27/25
        He's not, he is faux. He fools nobody [NT] - ColeyO - 11:50am 8/27/25
    - Wow...you really wanted to prove my point. Fail! [NT] - jakers - 7:01pm 8/26/25
      - Quit dancing around…show us the evidence of fraud. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:10pm 8/26/25
        Keep running with the strawman. - jakers - 10:54pm 8/26/25
        
        Jakes floats like butterfly - Hensou - 8:58pm 8/26/25
        That's about the size of him...and his impact...in short...an annoyance without substance. We'll see - TyroneIrish - 11:43pm 8/26/25
        You can die from a bee sting. We can only hope. - Hensou - 7:14am 8/27/25
- Still ignoring Mark’s suggestions? - Hensou - 5:31pm 8/26/25
  - No consequences ever [NT] - ColeyO - 9:17pm 8/26/25
  - Any substance to your post?…I’ll hold my breath ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:53pm 8/26/25
    - What an illogically stupid post by you. - Hensou - 8:32pm 8/26/25
      - HOF UHND Poster!?...pshaw...I've got my sights set on a Nobel Peace Prize...heck if a Felon, Rapist - TyroneIrish - 11:48pm 8/26/25
        You delusions are boring Tyrone. [NT] - Hensou - 9:07am 8/27/25
- . [NT] - Hensou - 4:42pm 8/26/25
- It was a non-profit scam like the USAID model that is intentionally obfuscated [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 4:37pm 8/26/25
  - No...You show us some documented fraud...surely you have more than idle questions w/o substance - TyroneIrish - 4:54pm 8/26/25
    - Read the article TTTK posted below, one thing is obvious you don't give a rats ass about the victims [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:56pm 8/26/25
      - I'd like to see the evidence of fraud coming from you, Cheeks...I'll wait. - TyroneIrish - 5:07pm 8/26/25
        He’s given it clearly. You ignored it. - Hensou - 6:12pm 8/26/25
        Oh, so you’ve got the evidence of fraud …show it to us. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:08pm 8/26/25
        Already presented. [NT] - Hensou - 7:55pm 8/26/25
        No it hasn't. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:13pm 8/27/25
        
        We want me to investigate this personally? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:10pm 8/26/25
        You posted the Joe Rogan video that turned out to be nothing but innuendos…it’s your responsibility - TyroneIrish - 6:58pm 8/26/25
        It went to NGOs, not victims, that much is clear. - iairishcheeks - 7:11pm 8/26/25
        
        He demands irrefutable proof yet produces none. [NT] - Hensou - 6:28pm 8/26/25
        Read the L.A. Times article I posted hours ago…has documented proof - TyroneIrish - 7:06pm 8/26/25
        That article is hot garbage. It never addresses where the money actually went. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:12pm 8/26/25
        There are several examples cited...and at the end of the year KPMG will conduct a full audit... - TyroneIrish - 11:54am 8/27/25
        
        Totally agree. - Hensou - 8:25pm 8/26/25
        Hey, I've provided the LA Times article that proves FireAid has provided a great deal of aid to - TyroneIrish - 12:02pm 8/27/25
        The article is garbage. You dream the impossible dream: logical relevance. [NT] - Hensou - 12:26pm 8/27/25
        Per Mark's admonition, you should be providing substantive evidence to back up your claim that the - TyroneIrish - 4:16pm 8/27/25
  - Just asking questions still [NT] - Quest4twelve - 4:49pm 8/26/25