Anyone who believes the vaccines were not a gamechanger is a loon.
Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10893624/
The key factor is hospitalization rates post COVID vaccine.
Replies to: "The key factor is hospitalization rates post COVID vaccine."
- WHO explanation of how COViD deaths are tracked, since there’s some ignorance hete [LINK]
- LanceManion - 9:55am 9/6/25
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- There's an inherent weirdness here. - iairishcheeks - 1:50pm 9/6/25
- Per Leftists, China would never lie on data like that. China just respects life more than we do. [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 5:08pm 9/6/25
- You may note that no one wants to comment on the incongruity, much less address it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:37am 9/7/25
- COVID was over-reported as “cause of death”, no doubt. - LanceManion - 3:34pm 9/6/25
- Actually, there is a strong argument for "Under-Reporting" of COVID deaths in the U.S.... [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 6:52pm 9/6/25
- We agree. The numbers weren’t reliable. [NT]
- LanceManion - 8:15am 9/7/25
- You forget the days of refrigerated semi-trucks being used as temporary morgues in hospital parking - TyroneIrish - 10:02am 9/7/25
- We agree. The numbers weren’t reliable. [NT]
- LanceManion - 8:15am 9/7/25
- Actually, there is a strong argument for "Under-Reporting" of COVID deaths in the U.S.... [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 6:52pm 9/6/25
- Think and Research before posting, Cheeks... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:54pm 9/6/25
- Nothing weird about it, other countries implemented strict adherence to rules during Covid that - Quest4twelve - 2:54pm 9/6/25
- A more persuasive argument would be the other countries did a poor job counting deaths [NT] - LanceManion - 3:39pm 9/6/25
- This is hilarious. Show us the evidence that lockdowns accomplished this with clear causality - MAS - 3:00pm 9/6/25
- Save your breath. This is like DEI to these people. No need for rational thought. [NT] - LanceManion - 3:41pm 9/6/25
- What, like closing beaches and filling in skate parks with sand? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:56pm 9/6/25
- Per Leftists, China would never lie on data like that. China just respects life more than we do. [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 5:08pm 9/6/25
- This is so weird - Chris94 - 11:26am 9/6/25
- Stick with the humanities. Q412 understands the point. Here is the key part. - LanceManion - 12:33pm 9/6/25
- Lance, COVID-19 is a 'Systemic Disease"...it affects multiple organs...i.e. any organ that has ACE2 [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 1:09pm 9/6/25
- You are getting much closer to answering my simple question [NT] - LanceManion - 1:14pm 9/6/25
- The key factor is hospitalization rates post COVID vaccine. [LINK]
- conorlarkin - 12:43pm 9/6/25
- Very interesting but in no way relevant to the discussion [NT]
- LanceManion - 12:53pm 9/6/25
- Yes it is. You assert that "COVID deaths" are not really from COVID, but from underlying illnesses. - conorlarkin - 1:03pm 9/6/25
- Not sure that is true. Call covid the underlying illness if you like. - LanceManion - 1:16pm 9/6/25
- Yes it is. You assert that "COVID deaths" are not really from COVID, but from underlying illnesses. - conorlarkin - 1:03pm 9/6/25
- Very interesting but in no way relevant to the discussion [NT]
- LanceManion - 12:53pm 9/6/25
- Lance, COVID-19 is a 'Systemic Disease"...it affects multiple organs...i.e. any organ that has ACE2 [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 1:09pm 9/6/25
- Stick with the humanities. Q412 understands the point. Here is the key part. - LanceManion - 12:33pm 9/6/25
- People also die of complications of AIDS and cancer. Your point? [NT]
- Quest4twelve - 10:54am 9/6/25
- He thinks he is clever. [NT]
- Chris94 - 11:26am 9/6/25
- Not trying to be clever, just trying to understand what COMPLICATION the dude below died from. [NT] - LanceManion - 12:35pm 9/6/25
- Thank you. That’s the point. [NT]
- LanceManion - 10:56am 9/6/25
- Not the point at all. With out the primary sickness they don't die from the secondary symptoms. [NT]
- Quest4twelve - 12:52pm 9/6/25
- Did everyone who died with Covid die the same way? [NT]
- LanceManion - 12:54pm 9/6/25
- COVID-19 is a "Systemic Disease"...(see my earlier post) - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 9/6/25
- It sure is [NT]
- LanceManion - 1:17pm 9/6/25
- Then what is your point? [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 1:24pm 9/6/25
- You admit below that you don’t know how he died just that he had Covid. - LanceManion - 1:26pm 9/6/25
- Here's a more impartial perspective on this issue... [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 2:15pm 9/6/25
- Thank you. [NT]
- LanceManion - 3:44pm 9/6/25
- You're welcome... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:06pm 9/6/25
- Thank you. [NT]
- LanceManion - 3:44pm 9/6/25
- Were it not for the COVID virus infection, my friend would not have died...simple as that. COVID - TyroneIrish - 1:35pm 9/6/25
- Sounds like that’s what you heard. [NT] - LanceManion - 3:44pm 9/6/25
- Here's a more impartial perspective on this issue... [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 2:15pm 9/6/25
- You admit below that you don’t know how he died just that he had Covid. - LanceManion - 1:26pm 9/6/25
- Then what is your point? [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 1:24pm 9/6/25
- It sure is [NT]
- LanceManion - 1:17pm 9/6/25
- COVID-19 is a "Systemic Disease"...(see my earlier post) - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 9/6/25
- Did everyone who died with Covid die the same way? [NT]
- LanceManion - 12:54pm 9/6/25
- Not the point at all. With out the primary sickness they don't die from the secondary symptoms. [NT]
- Quest4twelve - 12:52pm 9/6/25
- He thinks he is clever. [NT]
- Chris94 - 11:26am 9/6/25
- There's an inherent weirdness here. - iairishcheeks - 1:50pm 9/6/25