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Actually, there is a strong argument for "Under-Reporting" of COVID deaths in the U.S....

Author: TyroneIrish (21607 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:52 pm on Sep 6, 2025
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...from the attached paper...
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Since the identification of SARS-CoV-2 in December 2019, the virus has exacted a devastating toll on global health. In the United States (US), the COVID-19 pandemic has caused more than 33 million confirmed infections and over 600,000 reported deaths as of July 1, 2021. However, recent estimates of undiagnosed infections [1] and under-reported deaths [2], [3], [4] demonstrate that the true burden of COVID-19 in the US, and likely in other countries, has not been fully captured.

In The Lancet Regional Health – Americas, Iuliano et al [4] used an excess-mortality Poisson regression model to estimate the number of deaths attributable to COVID-19 in the US from March 2020 to May 2021. By adjusting all-cause death counts for incomplete reporting, Iuliano et al [4] fitted their age-stratified model to each American state. All-cause excess mortality includes deaths both from the virus itself and those that arise from the externalities of the pandemic. The excess deaths metric thereby includes deaths for which COVID-19 was not necessarily the proximate cause, but where an overtaxed healthcare system led to failures in addressing other causes of mortality.

Nationally, Iuliano et al [4] estimated a 24% rate in under-reporting, meaning that over 180,000 additional deaths were either directly or indirectly attributable to COVID-19 beyond the 582,135 that were reported on death certificates by May 2021. The majority of unrecognized deaths were estimated to have occurred during the early months of pandemic spread when the healthcare system was overwhelmed and testing inadequate.

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Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8354557/#:~:text=Nationally%2C%20Iuliano%20et%20al%20%5B4,death%20certificates%20by%20May%202021.

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Replies to: "Actually, there is a strong argument for "Under-Reporting" of COVID deaths in the U.S...."

  • WHO explanation of how COViD deaths are tracked, since there’s some ignorance hete [LINK] - LanceManion - 9:55am 9/6/25 (36) [View All]
    • There's an inherent weirdness here. - iairishcheeks - 1:50pm 9/6/25
      • Per Leftists, China would never lie on data like that. China just respects life more than we do. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:08pm 9/6/25
        • You may note that no one wants to comment on the incongruity, much less address it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:37am 9/7/25
      • COVID was over-reported as “cause of death”, no doubt. - LanceManion - 3:34pm 9/6/25
        • Actually, there is a strong argument for "Under-Reporting" of COVID deaths in the U.S.... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:52pm 9/6/25
          • We agree. The numbers weren’t reliable. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:15am 9/7/25
            • You forget the days of refrigerated semi-trucks being used as temporary morgues in hospital parking - TyroneIrish - 10:02am 9/7/25
      • Think and Research before posting, Cheeks... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:54pm 9/6/25
      • Nothing weird about it, other countries implemented strict adherence to rules during Covid that - Quest4twelve - 2:54pm 9/6/25
        • A more persuasive argument would be the other countries did a poor job counting deaths [NT] - LanceManion - 3:39pm 9/6/25
        • This is hilarious. Show us the evidence that lockdowns accomplished this with clear causality - MAS - 3:00pm 9/6/25
          • Save your breath. This is like DEI to these people. No need for rational thought. [NT] - LanceManion - 3:41pm 9/6/25
        • What, like closing beaches and filling in skate parks with sand? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:56pm 9/6/25
    • This is so weird - Chris94 - 11:26am 9/6/25
      • Stick with the humanities. Q412 understands the point. Here is the key part. - LanceManion - 12:33pm 9/6/25
        • Lance, COVID-19 is a 'Systemic Disease"...it affects multiple organs...i.e. any organ that has ACE2 [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:09pm 9/6/25
          • You are getting much closer to answering my simple question [NT] - LanceManion - 1:14pm 9/6/25
        • The key factor is hospitalization rates post COVID vaccine. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 12:43pm 9/6/25
          • Very interesting but in no way relevant to the discussion [NT] - LanceManion - 12:53pm 9/6/25
            • Yes it is. You assert that "COVID deaths" are not really from COVID, but from underlying illnesses. - conorlarkin - 1:03pm 9/6/25
              • Not sure that is true. Call covid the underlying illness if you like. - LanceManion - 1:16pm 9/6/25
    • People also die of complications of AIDS and cancer. Your point? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 10:54am 9/6/25
      • He thinks he is clever. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:26am 9/6/25
        • Not trying to be clever, just trying to understand what COMPLICATION the dude below died from. [NT] - LanceManion - 12:35pm 9/6/25
      • Thank you. That’s the point. [NT] - LanceManion - 10:56am 9/6/25
        • Not the point at all. With out the primary sickness they don't die from the secondary symptoms. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 12:52pm 9/6/25
          • Did everyone who died with Covid die the same way? [NT] - LanceManion - 12:54pm 9/6/25
            • COVID-19 is a "Systemic Disease"...(see my earlier post) - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 9/6/25
              • It sure is [NT] - LanceManion - 1:17pm 9/6/25
                • Then what is your point? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:24pm 9/6/25
                  • You admit below that you don’t know how he died just that he had Covid. - LanceManion - 1:26pm 9/6/25
                    • Here's a more impartial perspective on this issue... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:15pm 9/6/25
                      • Thank you. [NT] - LanceManion - 3:44pm 9/6/25
                        • You're welcome... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:06pm 9/6/25
                    • Were it not for the COVID virus infection, my friend would not have died...simple as that. COVID - TyroneIrish - 1:35pm 9/6/25
                      • Sounds like that’s what you heard. [NT] - LanceManion - 3:44pm 9/6/25
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