Let's talk about interdiction, what do you think of the Portugal model?

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Let's talk about interdiction, what do you think of the Portugal model?

Author: iairishcheeks (28465 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Sep 8, 2025

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Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/25/it-beats-getting-stoned-on-the-street-how-portugal-decriminalised-drugs-as-seen-from-the-shoot-up-centre

Replies to: "Let's talk about interdiction, what do you think of the Portugal model?"

We will likely hit a narco state in the Western hemisphere. Unlike the Ukraine war, I support this. [LINK] - Cole - 3:12pm 9/8/25 (51) [View All]
- I’m good with it as long as we use overwhelming force and inflict maximum casualties [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:16pm 9/8/25
  - Re-establishing dominance over our hemisphere and making an example of Venezuela - not a bad idea. [NT] - LanceManion - 8:51am 9/9/25
  - If we attack Venezuela, China will be the hardest hit. [NT] - Cole - 6:06pm 9/8/25
    - I’m good with that, too. Napalm those bitches [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:02pm 9/8/25
      - Seriously, China does not belong in the Western Hemisphere. [NT] - Cole - 10:08pm 9/8/25
        Agree. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:14am 9/9/25
- Sure why not. Saddam had weapons of mass destruction also. You guys - Frank L - 4:28pm 9/8/25
  - Not that. Haven’t really thought about it, or read up on it. - Frank L - 4:41pm 9/8/25
  - What would you propose? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:34pm 9/8/25
- It would benefit their own populations. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:03pm 9/8/25
  - True. We’re also sending a message to countries in our hemisphere to not align with China. [NT] - Cole - 5:40pm 9/8/25
    - We need to dominate our hemisphere going forward, let Europe do the NATO thing. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:34pm 9/8/25
- It sure will make us feel good, dadgumit! - Chris94 - 3:39pm 9/8/25
  - The John Mearsheimer school of realism that predicts that countries will act - Cole - 5:39pm 9/8/25
    - Realism, you say? Tell me more. [NT] - Chris94 - 6:46pm 9/8/25
      - Not a surprise that you need an education. [NT] - Cole - 8:16pm 9/8/25
        The sarcasm and name calling comes out when he ain’t got nothing, which is often [NT] - Frankx - 10:48pm 9/8/25
  - Hegseth loves explosions. [NT] - Frank L - 4:34pm 9/8/25
  - You don't think our intelligence organizations and military can substantially slow drug flow? - NedoftheHill - 3:57pm 9/8/25
    - You’re joking, right? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 6:00pm 9/8/25
      - Of course not. But, where do you stand? These people are worse than Russians, don't you agree? - NedoftheHill - 7:25pm 9/8/25
        They’re on the same level as the Russian savages… - Domer From Hell - 10:05pm 9/8/25
        The tech has developed since then. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:07pm 9/9/25
        A full scale invasion is required to make a dent in the drug trade. Not sure if Trump’s willing… - Domer From Hell - 9:39pm 9/9/25
    - "Facts About Fentanyl Smuggling"...and why Trump isn't taking action to stop the #1 means of [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:09pm 9/8/25
    - Interdiction does not work - Chris94 - 4:04pm 9/8/25
      - Let's talk about interdiction, what do you think of the Portugal model? [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 5:12pm 9/8/25
        I think it’s really interesting. They had problems in Oregon, though. [NT] - Chris94 - 9:07pm 9/8/25
        Oregon is micro, Portugal is macro. Have to expand the study, IMO. - iairishcheeks - 2:07am 9/9/25
      - This isn't weed farms in national parks. - iairishcheeks - 4:28pm 9/8/25
        I agree. I wrote about it in the link. [NT] - Chris94 - 4:34pm 9/8/25
      - Disagree. We now have the intelligence tools to take these guys out. - NedoftheHill - 4:06pm 9/8/25
        Sure Ned keep believing those fairy tales. - Frank L - 4:33pm 9/8/25
        We used the tech in Iraq. Heard a piece on it on PBS ... those neocons! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:53pm 9/8/25
        That went well. You guys just can’t resist big bombs and - Frank L - 5:58pm 9/8/25
        Actually, it did...at least the part I'm talking about. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:26pm 9/8/25
        
        No we don't. [NT] [LINK] - Chris94 - 4:13pm 9/8/25
        Quaaludes is a good point, I was really with you until the revenge paragraph. - iairishcheeks - 5:04pm 9/8/25
        
        3rd paragraph: if we can find Bin Laden, we can find these assholes too. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:59pm 9/8/25
        
        I call into question your very first sentence, opioid ODs are down about 30% from the 2022-2023 peak - iairishcheeks - 4:56pm 9/8/25
        
        So, you would do nothing? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:32pm 9/8/25
        Read the piece [NT] - Chris94 - 4:34pm 9/8/25
        Would you support use of tariffs against China to stop the drugs? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:57pm 9/8/25
        All we'd have to do is intercept ships between China and Mexico. - iairishcheeks - 5:19pm 9/8/25
- Should there be judicious killings for the drug consumers? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 3:35pm 9/8/25
  - As opposed to how they are dying now? No. Your idea is not a good one. - NedoftheHill - 4:00pm 9/8/25
  - Illegal drugs and addiction doesn't begin or end w/ DJT. It was there under Barry & Sleepy Joe. - ELP - 3:50pm 9/8/25
    - Uhm who said it did? [NT] - Frank L - 4:36pm 9/8/25
      - No one. I said it on my own. Just a friendly reminder to the D Left around here. - ELP - 7:33pm 9/8/25
        Carry on then. Keep talking to yourself about things no - Frank L - 7:52pm 9/8/25
        Don't short change your comrades. It's being discussed somewhere. [NT] - ELP - 9:14pm 9/8/25