Ty claims the previous people made bad choices...big,big difference. But even so, yeah.

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Ty claims the previous people made bad choices...big,big difference. But even so, yeah.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59926 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Aug 16, 2021

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Replies to: "Ty claims the previous people made bad choices...big,big difference. But even so, yeah."

The crisis for our Afghan allies started long ago...read the attached article... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:41pm 8/16/21 (68) [View All]
- Lol. It's Trump's fault! That's the spin you guys are going with? Of course it is. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:36pm 8/16/21
  - I'm not making any of this up...the facts are there...Trump bolted the door as soon as he took over - TyroneIrish - 3:02pm 8/16/21
    - Trump's concerns wrt VISA's to terrorists in 2017 is irrelevant. Biden had choice of when withdrawal - BaronVonZemo - 3:07pm 8/16/21
      - You can run, but you can't hide from the facts as presented...Trump did all he could to keep our - TyroneIrish - 3:46pm 8/16/21
        Poor Joe had no choice but to call for the withdrawal prematurely. Dang that Trump! Lol. Dolt. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:07pm 8/16/21
        It's taking you awhile, but you're starting to get it...the date was set by Trump's negotiation with - TyroneIrish - 5:15pm 8/16/21
        biden was not bound by trump’s plan. He moved up the date to insure failure. - Aragoto - 5:21pm 8/16/21
        Your conjecture would have more legs if you said Trump's May 1 date helped ensure failure...but [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:33pm 8/16/21
        Bullshit. Biden was not bound by Trump’s plan. Period. - Aragoto - 6:26pm 8/16/21
        Fact of the matter is that the Trump's May 1 date was insanely tight...Biden got four more months... - TyroneIrish - 6:46pm 8/16/21
        Agree that your BS is weak...agree that joe just followed Trump’s plan. [NT] - Aragoto - 7:41pm 8/16/21
- rashida sez it started in the 80's when we backed the Taliban before it was founded in 1994. [LINK] - Aragoto - 1:27pm 8/16/21
  - That my good man, is the very definition of a "deflection"...and a poor one at that...Trump bolted - TyroneIrish - 2:08pm 8/16/21
    - you're a hater [NT] - Hank the Tank - 2:23pm 8/16/21
      - Ty will be claiming that Biden provided air transport to the Afghanis in 2 yrs(On outside of plane). [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:16pm 8/16/21
    - Are you completely illiterate? What does Trump have to do with Rashida's dumb comment? [NT] - Aragoto - 2:14pm 8/16/21
      - Exactly!...What has Rashida Tlaib's dumb comment go to do with my exposure of Trump's stopping - TyroneIrish - 2:34pm 8/16/21
        So,you're claiming it'sTrump's fault for withholding VISA's 2yrs ago when Biden controlled timeline - BaronVonZemo - 2:53pm 8/16/21
        You never feel motivated to check on anyone's "drivel"...not even your own :-)... - TyroneIrish - 3:54pm 8/16/21
        Again you avoid the point-Biden controlled the timeline for withdrawal. Trump's reasons in '17 were - BaronVonZemo - 3:58pm 8/16/21
        The exit date was fixed by Trump in his negotiation with the Taliban...not Biden...Biden is to be - TyroneIrish - 4:05pm 8/16/21
        No,Biden moved up date actually,&if things aren't progressing properly, an leader makes adjustments - BaronVonZemo - 4:11pm 8/16/21
        Now you're working with "whole cloth"...where is your documentation that Biden "moved up" the exit - TyroneIrish - 5:22pm 8/16/21
        Here is my documentation knucklehead - Google is your friend. Biden moved up date to 8/31/21 [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 5:29pm 8/16/21
        First, we need to agree that May 1, 2021 is the date Biden inherited from Trump's negotiation with - TyroneIrish - 5:51pm 8/16/21
        So Biden moved up the date, and you were wrong. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:01pm 8/16/21
        ?? How does an exit date by Biden after May 1 constitute "moving the date UP?" ?? - TyroneIrish - 1:10am 8/17/21
        
        Even CNN called bullshit on Joe's claim regarding Afghani visas last month. [LINK] - Aragoto - 2:56pm 8/16/21
        There's a huge difference between Trump slamming the door on any Special Visas at all, and Biden - TyroneIrish - 3:59pm 8/16/21
        Tell that to CNN. They called BS on JB. [NT] - Aragoto - 5:23pm 8/16/21
        
        Biden had 1 1/2 yrs for a few thousand VISA's. Still, after 2 decades,why rush before we were ready? - BaronVonZemo - 4:19pm 8/16/21
        Once again...(so many posts to cover)...Biden admin got bi-partisan support for a Bill that includes - TyroneIrish - 12:54am 8/17/21
        
        Pretty obvious. You can't be serious. - Aragoto - 2:45pm 8/16/21
        "The rashisda post was to show how ridiculous the lib blame game has gotten"...i.e. nothing to do - TyroneIrish - 4:24pm 8/16/21
        Spell much? Very little accuracy in most of what you say. - Aragoto - 5:14pm 8/16/21
    - Once again I’ll repeat. Is Trump still President? I though Biden was. Do you not understand your - PBHangingChad - 2:12pm 8/16/21
      - When people are justifiably concerned for the welfare of our Afghani allies, it is important to - TyroneIrish - 2:47pm 8/16/21
        How hard is it to post with Biden’s cock in your ass? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 2:52pm 8/16/21
- There was never going to be an easy way to close out 20 years of failure. [NT] - ND521 - 1:10pm 8/16/21
  - Yes, but he consciously or unconsciously chose the worst way to do it. - Frank L - 1:17pm 8/16/21
    - Only if Potus was aware that the Afghan military had a deal to let the Taliban take over. Military - ND521 - 1:45pm 8/16/21
      - Maybe he should have. Buck stops with him. If he and the IC didn’t consider that then shame on them. [NT] - Frank L - 1:57pm 8/16/21
- Stop, lot's of blame to go around... - 86domer - 1:10pm 8/16/21
  - One more thing...the exit date was originally set for May of this year...again, by the preceding - TyroneIrish - 1:52pm 8/16/21
    - For me, changes nothing. Previous guys made bad choices... so what. - 86domer - 2:21pm 8/16/21
      - Ty claims the previous people made bad choices...big,big difference. But even so, yeah. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:10pm 8/16/21
      - Yeah to borrow a conorisim, he needs to hump his own shit on this one. [NT] - Frank L - 2:27pm 8/16/21
        Amen brotha [NT] - 86domer - 2:28pm 8/16/21
    - Let me ask you a question. Could Biden have thrown out Trumps plan? If so why didn’t he? - PBHangingChad - 1:55pm 8/16/21
      - You brought up the question...did you even try to find an answer before posting?...was that a smart - TyroneIrish - 2:19pm 8/16/21
        C’mon Ty he could have found plenty of reason not to have fully left if he wanted. - Frank L - 2:37pm 8/16/21
        
        You’re helpless. You are so deluded you can’t see what is happening in front of you. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 2:29pm 8/16/21
      - Yeah it it is unseemly like the whiny cultists defending Orange with the whatabouts. - Frank L - 1:59pm 8/16/21
  - 86 look up for my post. Sorry meant for you. Best. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:26pm 8/16/21
    - Cheers - 86domer - 1:35pm 8/16/21
  - Correct. Good analysis. The Pentagon though did want to double our presence and leave 5K there. - Frank L - 1:13pm 8/16/21
    - That's fair and certainly that 5K looks like a better option based on what we are seeing - 86domer - 1:27pm 8/16/21
      - So was I and I own it. - Frank L - 1:33pm 8/16/21
- It's a complicated process. Your assessment is simple-minded. [LINK] - Aragoto - 12:56pm 8/16/21
- Laetare participation medal-winner gets full credit for this [NT] - humbaba - 12:52pm 8/16/21
- so DJT is at fault [NT] - Hank the Tank - 12:45pm 8/16/21
  - You think he bears no fault for this? So typical. [NT] - Frank L - 12:47pm 8/16/21
- It started as soon as it became a nation building exercise. We should have sent our guys in and - Frank L - 12:44pm 8/16/21
  - Yep carpet bomb and no boots on the ground. Until we meet our enemies evil this will continue to - PBHangingChad - 12:47pm 8/16/21
- (chuckling) [NT] - MAS - 12:43pm 8/16/21
- Can you STFU blaming everything on Trump? Who is the president now. You are ridiculous - PBHangingChad - 12:42pm 8/16/21
  - Good heavens...if only there was an expiration date on the effects of Trump's actions...sadly, we - TyroneIrish - 7:09pm 8/16/21
  - Trump's decision wasn't stupid. Biden's execution was. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:39pm 8/16/21