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I do not diminish Kirk’s murder. But I refuse to elevate it from other firearm murders.

Author: conorlarkin (21483 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:42 am on Sep 20, 2025
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In 2023, 17,927 out of 22,830 murders (79%) involved a firearm.

If you were to speak with the loved ones of those 18k victims who were shot and killed, their grief would be no less than what Kirk’s loved ones experience.

And no, Kirk’s death was not committed by “the left.” It was committed by an unstable 22 year old who was struggling with his identity, made worse by escalating cruelty towards transgender folks. We witness such cruelty on this Board daily. Our nation has witnessed mass shootings often perpetrated by young adults who feel completely outcast and isolated.

None of the above excuses or justifies the actions of the shooter in Kirk’s murder. But, trying to understand the “why?” as to shooter’s motive is an important step, as it is in any murder case.

Just watched camera footage from 3-4 properties that captured a daytime murder of a 19 year old, shot and killed by a 21 year old. Murder was orchestrated much like Kirk’s murder, with plan to catch victim by surprise. Senseless. Tragic. But not a national news story.

Like Kirk, one shooter. One perpetrator.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

Replies to: "I do not diminish Kirk’s murder. But I refuse to elevate it from other firearm murders."

  • I get the sense that some people here are more outraged about Kimmel than Kirk. - iairishcheeks - 5:23pm 9/19/25 (26) [View All]
    • Even for you an awful and childish comparison. [NT] - Frank L - 8:21pm 9/19/25
    • One perpetrator is an unstable young adult who vented his hurt with a bullet. - conorlarkin - 8:07pm 9/19/25
      • Another 80/20 yr on the wrong side of [NT] - ColeyO - 10:31pm 9/19/25
      • All we have to do is let people like you keep talking. [NT] - MAS - 9:42pm 9/19/25
      • Repeating misinformation in pursuit of misplaced outrage, you should be double ashamed. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:22pm 9/19/25
        • Right away, Trumpies lied that radical leftists shot Kirk without vetting their claim. [NT] - ND521 - 8:33pm 9/19/25
          • He was a radical leftist. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 8:52pm 9/19/25
      • “Common murder”?! Wow. You are definitely part of the problem. Did you feel glee when you heard? - BaronVonZemo - 8:15pm 9/19/25
        • I gather your interaction with young adults charged with murder is zero. - conorlarkin - 9:04pm 9/19/25
          • "I guess Kirk's life has more value to you than a 19yo black kid from an urban housing project" WTF? - BaronVonZemo - 1:08am 9/20/25
            • I do not diminish Kirk’s murder. But I refuse to elevate it from other firearm murders. - conorlarkin - 7:42am 9/20/25
              • The "Why?" matters. - iairishcheeks - 2:01pm 9/20/25
    • Quite a bit more. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:33pm 9/19/25
    • Is it a competition? - Chris94 - 5:33pm 9/19/25
      • Repeating misinformation in pursuit of misplaced outrage, you should be double ashamed. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:35pm 9/19/25
        • Sure. Good talk. [NT] - Chris94 - 5:37pm 9/19/25
          • Prove that you’re not a spoiled 15 yo teenage girl…and stop rolling your eyes. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:35pm 9/19/25
            • He posts like a Valley Girl anyway [NT] - ColeyO - 7:56pm 9/19/25
    • GFYS you self righteous prick. [NT] - jimbasil - 5:30pm 9/19/25
      • Irony [NT] - irish93 - 7:53pm 9/19/25
      • Jim, you’re a mess. [NT] - Hensou - 6:31pm 9/19/25
      • He’s an uneducated douche, who relies on this message board for attention. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 6:26pm 9/19/25
      • FBI Watchlist. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:35pm 9/19/25
    • There are crazies who always do the wrong thing, sorry we expected better from our govt leaders. - Quest4twelve - 5:25pm 9/19/25
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