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I'm open-minded here. I just need to be convinced of the plan to pay for it.

Author: jakers (14178 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:57 am on Oct 23, 2025
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I loved that Obamacare (supposedly) touted the principle of making sure that an unexpected medical cost (surgery, broken bone, etc.) shouldn't mean financial ruin for an American citizen. The problem is that as a whole, there was no way that we could pay for it.

I still strongly favor the idea of competitive, inter-state health insurance plans covered through private markets. Yes, it would HAVE to be regulated. But competition and choices are what could keep the costs competitive. A blended approach like you mention would probably work best (maybe single-payer to cover the basic stuff like preventive care, supplemental to cover big unexpected events).

And the next piece of this discussion, which my favorite liberals like jimbasil and Chris and I have debated about before, is that the border has to be secured. These services have finite funding and resources, and if we don't secure the border, there will be a flood of people coming in that we can't support.


Replies to: "I'm open-minded here. I just need to be convinced of the plan to pay for it."

  • The shutdown is all about the "Unaffordable" Care Act [LINK] - Curly1918 - 8:52am 10/23/25 (13) [View All]
    • Interesting it isn't affordable like they claimed/lied. - NedoftheHill - 10:46am 10/23/25
      • Oddly similar to the Inflation "Reduction" Act. - PaND - 2:37pm 10/23/25
    • Single payer + supplemental is the best solution, IMO. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:26am 10/23/25
      • In 2000, manufacturing was the largest industry in all but 4 states. Today it's medicine. - LanceManion - 10:24am 10/23/25
      • I'm open-minded here. I just need to be convinced of the plan to pay for it. - jakers - 9:57am 10/23/25
        • Supplemental would be to cover elective procedures and enhanced care. - iairishcheeks - 12:12pm 10/23/25
        • A national health care system should be run by The Mafia. - Hensou - 11:56am 10/23/25
        • Children are starving in Africa because Dems want spending for this. - NedoftheHill - 10:54am 10/23/25
        • On your point about the border. Milton Friedman he's no Paul Krugman. [NT] [LINK] - LanceManion - 10:14am 10/23/25
    • I'm going to force you to buy something then give you a subsidy so you can afford it: Obamacare. [NT] - LanceManion - 9:09am 10/23/25
      • And schedule that subsidy to expire so they can use it as leverage later against GOP... - NedoftheHill - 10:48am 10/23/25
        • Obamacare wasn't about universal healthcare, it was a political weapon. [NT] - LanceManion - 11:00am 10/23/25
          • Seems so. Plus it nationalized student loans, allowing Biden to try to bribe voters. - NedoftheHill - 11:14am 10/23/25
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