Have I ever tried to convince you or anyone else that he is a good person? I did not. Did you guys try to convince all of us that good ole Joe was a swell guy without a grifting bone in his body? You did. And instead of shamelessly laying it out for everyone to see, he and his brother and his disgrace of a son concealed all that. Give credit where credit is due: they had some nice scams going. And me, idiot me, even I bought that line for a while that he was "the poorest member of the U.S. Senate." Silly me. Silly stupid me.