Great. Now do that for abortion. You won't.

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Great. Now do that for abortion. You won't.

Author: NedoftheHill (45306 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:01 pm on Oct 27, 2025

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Taking a statement by Pope Francis out of context to support a position he doesn't support is not citing to Catholic Doctrine. You know that he was saying whichever side you take on the personhood issue, abortion is wrong, and you took his statement to mean you can take either side of the abortion issue. Total misrepresentation. He clarified his statement later, which you never seem to quote. I assume you are intentionally lying about his statement.

But, regardless, his casual statement is not Church Doctrine. So, let's ignore it. Let's cite the Catechism like you did for Just War Theory. I presented a series of direct quotes from the Catechism on this subject. You apparently don't want to respond to them, because you know you disagree with Church Doctrine when it comes to abortion, so you don't want to cite to actual Catholic Doctrine.

[[ Aside: You say, "Stop abusing the word 'lie'." Funny coming from you, when you state that merely not talking about an issue among friends to avoid conflict is akin to lying. Talk about abusing the word "lie." ]]

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: "Great. Now do that for abortion. You won't."

Totally normal. TDS and violence is real. [NT] [LINK] - Frankx - 10:52am 10/26/25 (38) [View All]
- Renounce violence from all sides…work together to stop it. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:48pm 10/26/25
  - Then stop calling people fascists/autocrats. You know that violence is the only answer to fascism. - NedoftheHill - 3:37pm 10/26/25
    - delete [NT] - ELP - 8:38am 10/27/25
      - Re: The Dems are married to the "both sides do it" talking point when convenient. [NT] - ELP - 8:39am 10/27/25
    - Bullshit. Calling out the slide to fascism is the duty of all true patriots. - Chris94 - 4:12pm 10/26/25
      - "Both sides do it" is a defense strategy of the Dem left. Don't doubt me. [NT] - ELP - 8:04pm 10/27/25
      - Exactly. And it’s dangerous to pretend that Trump 2.0 is not an autocracy. [NT] - conorlarkin - 7:42pm 10/26/25
        It is far more dangerous for you to pretend it is an autocracy. - Hensou - 8:22pm 10/26/25
        I am not pretending. And you are in denial. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:33pm 10/26/25
        You lost the election so you pretend Trump is a demonic figure. - Hensou - 8:38pm 10/26/25
      - Is it your contention that fascist dictators can be voted out of office? - NedoftheHill - 6:22pm 10/26/25
        My contention is that you are never worth engaging. [NT] - Chris94 - 6:55pm 10/26/25
        I get that you feel that way if you cannot find a flaw in my logic. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:22pm 10/26/25
        I've found and explained flaws in your logic over the Abortion issue...that's when you stopped - TyroneIrish - 8:46pm 10/26/25
        You apparently have trouble doing so on the issue of this thread, so you are changing the subject. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:13pm 10/27/25
        
        As far as I know, you stopped our last conversation. Having said that... - NedoftheHill - 9:52pm 10/26/25
        I haven’t twisted anything wrt Catholic Doctrine…in fact I’ve quoted it in in support - TyroneIrish - 11:11pm 10/26/25
        That is a lie, or pure ignorance. Did you even know of the Catholic Catechism b/f I cited it to you? - NedoftheHill - 1:25am 10/27/25
        I've cited the RCC's Catechetical teaching on "Just Wars", whereby...under certain enumerated [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:41pm 10/27/25
        Great. Now do that for abortion. You won't. - NedoftheHill - 7:01pm 10/27/25
        BTW…remember that since R v W in 1973 80-90% of Americans, - TyroneIrish - 10:21am 10/28/25
        
        Everyone can read what I posted, Ned...and while you refuse to acknowledge it, I clearly related - TyroneIrish - 1:48am 10/28/25
      - Calling out a slide to fascism is indeed bullshit. True Patriots laugh in your face. [NT] - Hensou - 6:07pm 10/26/25
      - Amen to that...it's Un-American to see it and not speak out...it's actually happening, and millions - TyroneIrish - 5:10pm 10/26/25
      - Carry on, proggie warrior! [NT] - Nigel Tufnel - 4:57pm 10/26/25
      - Total word Salad. Between KH and the former press Secretary trying to sell her book, hysterical [NT] - Frankx - 4:21pm 10/26/25
- Violence comes from the Left, and TDS is very real. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:11pm 10/26/25
  - TDS is strange. I just had a liberal ask me not to bring up politics with a particular person... - NedoftheHill - 3:41pm 10/26/25
    - Have to wonder what your friends would think of you if you were honest with them about your thoughts [NT] - TyroneIrish - 5:13pm 10/26/25
      - Their condition would be worsened. I don't wish to do that to them. - NedoftheHill - 6:26pm 10/26/25
        But you're not being honest with them...how can you be a friend if they don't know you? - TyroneIrish - 9:34pm 10/26/25
        Unlike you, I don't lie. Choosing not to argue with someone is not "not being honest." - NedoftheHill - 9:59pm 10/26/25
        Were you a participant in those Political discussions? - TyroneIrish - 1:26am 10/27/25
        You are about to lie by omission (per your definition of lying) when you fail to tell me your SSN. - NedoftheHill - 12:14pm 10/27/25
        The onus is on you, Ned...backup your claim of me lying...every post of mine is available to a - TyroneIrish - 4:32pm 10/27/25
- Remember, you’re allowed to kill Nazis [NT] - holybull101 - 12:42pm 10/26/25
- The perp here explicitly explained his behavior as a "TDS episode." - MAS - 11:26am 10/26/25