Hamas intended the civilian deaths as an end when they attacked. They wanted to cause outrage by killing families in their homes.
Israel intends to destroy Hamas, and the civilian deaths are not-intended as an end. Israel knows that outrage is detrimental to itself. They just weren't willing to let Hamas use its civilian population as a shield...but they weren't trying to destroy the shield (as we can see with so many survivors), but instead were trying to destroy the shield bearer (Hamas).
BTW, if you don't like basing morality on sheer numbers, I also mentioned another option: Intent.
Replies to: "BTW, if you don't like basing morality on sheer numbers, I also mentioned another option: Intent."
- I’m concerned DJT’s Nobel Peace prize is in jeopardy because of Israel’s bad behavior. [NT]
- jimbasil - 1:47pm 10/29/25
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- For those keeping score at home, it is 68K to 700. - iairishcheeks - 3:32pm 10/29/25
- That is the usual exchange rate - NedoftheHill - 5:42pm 10/29/25
- Dear God, Hamas made me kill all of those innocent children. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 7:59pm 10/29/25
- Hmmm. - NedoftheHill - 8:55pm 10/29/25
- What are the numbers? Hamas vs non-hamas? Women and children? [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 9:29pm 10/29/25
- BTW, if you don't like basing morality on sheer numbers, I also mentioned another option: Intent. - NedoftheHill - 9:55pm 10/29/25
- Hamas is to blame for all of it, so we can set that issue aside [LINK]
- iairishcheeks - 4:57am 10/30/25
- Should we have done the same after 9/11? Maybe. I doubt it would've worked, but who knows? - NedoftheHill - 11:45am 10/30/25
- Hamas is to blame for all of it, so we can set that issue aside [LINK]
- iairishcheeks - 4:57am 10/30/25
- You said 68k Gazans. If allowed, Hamas would eliminate over 7 million jews in Israel. - NedoftheHill - 9:49pm 10/29/25
- BTW, if you don't like basing morality on sheer numbers, I also mentioned another option: Intent. - NedoftheHill - 9:55pm 10/29/25
- What are the numbers? Hamas vs non-hamas? Women and children? [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 9:29pm 10/29/25
- Hmmm. - NedoftheHill - 8:55pm 10/29/25
- Dear God, Hamas made me kill all of those innocent children. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 7:59pm 10/29/25
- So no Nobel Peace prize for the guy who stopped 8 wars? [NT]
- jimbasil - 4:20pm 10/29/25
- The Trump Peace Prize will be the new gold standard of self-flatulation. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:28pm 10/29/25
- That is the usual exchange rate - NedoftheHill - 5:42pm 10/29/25
- Jim thinks Jews defending themselves is bad behavior. - NedoftheHill - 2:13pm 10/29/25
- It was mostly offense, not defense - iairishcheeks - 3:35pm 10/29/25
- Retaliation is defense against the next attack. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:59pm 10/29/25
- Neddie the nutty creates his own narrative without regard for truth or fact. You’re like a zit. [NT]
- jimbasil - 2:25pm 10/29/25
- Ha! As if "Israel's bad behavior" isn't you creating a false narrative. [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 2:47pm 10/29/25
- Because there really wasn’t an agreed to peace deal. - jimbasil - 2:51pm 10/29/25
- Got a link? [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 4:59pm 10/29/25
- Don’t watch FOXTV, newsmax or any other extremist right wing media. [NT]
- jimbasil - 5:17pm 10/29/25
- No link? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:31pm 10/29/25
- Don’t watch FOXTV, newsmax or any other extremist right wing media. [NT]
- jimbasil - 5:17pm 10/29/25
- Got a link? [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 4:59pm 10/29/25
- Because there really wasn’t an agreed to peace deal. - jimbasil - 2:51pm 10/29/25
- Ha! As if "Israel's bad behavior" isn't you creating a false narrative. [NT]
- NedoftheHill - 2:47pm 10/29/25
- It was mostly offense, not defense - iairishcheeks - 3:35pm 10/29/25
- For those keeping score at home, it is 68K to 700. - iairishcheeks - 3:32pm 10/29/25