Donum Vitae notes the distinction between the development of a human being and a person...which

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Donum Vitae notes the distinction between the development of a human being and a person...which

Author: TyroneIrish (22516 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:22 pm on Nov 13, 2025

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highlights the preeminence of the Woman's (un-debated Person's) Right to decide on whether or not to continue a totally unwanted pregnancy.

Replies to: "Donum Vitae notes the distinction between the development of a human being and a person...which"

Ty caught in yet another lie, this time about the RCC and "personhood" at conception - MarkHarman - 11:27pm 11/12/25 (50) [View All]
- The Church teaches every human has a soul from conception onward. - BaronVonZemo - 12:57pm 11/13/25
  - So aborted zygotes go to heaven? Are there millions of them up there? [NT] - Chris94 - 2:16pm 11/13/25
    - Yes, that is Church teaching. But those with mortal sin cannot. - BaronVonZemo - 4:55pm 11/13/25
    - Yes. Donum Vitae. [NT] - Hensou - 2:24pm 11/13/25
      - Donum Vitae does not state that... - TyroneIrish - 2:42pm 11/13/25
        Extremely, EXTREMELY weird and ILLOGICAL mental gymnastics here - MarkHarman - 5:17pm 11/13/25
      - Heaven is full of zyotes then. Just floating there, without consciousness. Cool. [NT] - Chris94 - 2:34pm 11/13/25
        You think self awareness is determined by a physical organ - BaronVonZemo - 5:42pm 11/13/25
        
        Donum Vitae clearly states that human life begins at conception. - Hensou - 3:02pm 11/13/25
        Donum Vitae notes the distinction between the development of a human being and a person...which - TyroneIrish - 3:22pm 11/13/25
        
        The large majority of conceptions result in either failure to implant, or miscarriage...the RCC gave - TyroneIrish - 2:47pm 11/13/25
  - I'm right here, Baron...this whole thread involves my comments on the abortion issue...address me - TyroneIrish - 1:15pm 11/13/25
- Ty’s handlers hate Jesus and anything to do with virtue [NT] - LanceManion - 6:38am 11/13/25
  - The 80-90% of Americans who agree with me have every bit as much "Virtue" as you do, maybe - TyroneIrish - 1:28pm 11/13/25
  - Jesus has been transformed into their image and likeness. - Hensou - 9:45am 11/13/25
- Did Google AI summaries supplant ex cathedra Papal teachings? [NT] - ND521 - 2:04am 11/13/25
- I'll take America Magazine's verified direct quote from Pope Francis over your source, Mark...same - TyroneIrish - 1:17am 11/13/25
  - Pope Francis talking off the cuff does not equal RCC doctrine - MarkHarman - 8:22am 11/13/25
    - It was a phrase excerpted out of a discussion and then deliberately misinterpreted... - TakethetrainKnute - 9:19am 11/13/25
      - Not true...on 11/28/2022 America Magazine published Francis' remarks on fetal personhood...Francis [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:55pm 11/13/25
        For the millionth time, you're trying to make a ridiculous and absurd analogy. - jakers - 1:51pm 11/13/25
        You can't parse the meaning of "Killing"...face up to it...par. 2309 of the RCC Catechism allows for - TyroneIrish - 3:07pm 11/13/25
        And you're back to the old "coerced" pregnancies canard. That was laughed at already. Try harder. [NT] - jakers - 3:20pm 11/13/25
        Do you not understand what "Coerced Means"?...many millions of women do...and it's not a benign - TyroneIrish - 3:44pm 11/13/25
        Yeah, it's YOU who doesn't understand the meaning of coerced. - jakers - 3:48pm 11/13/25
        From Webster's Dictionary..."Synonyms...arm-twisting, compulsion, constraint, duress, - TyroneIrish - 4:33pm 11/13/25
        Exactly. - jakers - 4:58pm 11/13/25
        Are you admitting that you favor NO RECOURSE for women subjected to Forced or Coerced pregnancies? - TyroneIrish - 5:31pm 11/13/25
        
        He doesn't care...been addressed and undressed on this one repeatedly, Clearly feels he gains points - TakethetrainKnute - 2:48pm 11/13/25
        I find this hilarious - Hensou - 3:14pm 11/13/25
        Only a coward would not confront his 'opponent' in a debate...you're doing it again...shameless. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 3:47pm 11/13/25
        
        I'm not the only one...80-90% of ALL Americans disagree that abortion should be illegal in all - TyroneIrish - 3:13pm 11/13/25
        Legality and morality are 2 very different things, which you of course know. - jakers - 3:22pm 11/13/25
        Bingo. [NT] - Hensou - 3:25pm 11/13/25
        Once again, the Coward chimes in... [NT] - TyroneIrish - 3:52pm 11/13/25
        Be careful who you're calling a coward. You're afraid to read Dr. Risch's paper [NT] - MarkHarman - 5:20pm 11/13/25
        I have engaged with you on the subject of HCQ+ hundreds of times...that issue was decided - TyroneIrish - 5:37pm 11/13/25
      - I think this is a well-spoken and fair assessment. [NT] - Hensou - 9:29am 11/13/25
        You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but do me the courtesy of responding to it...i.e. engage - TyroneIrish - 1:11pm 11/13/25
- He's repeated that lie a dozen times. Expect him to repeat it here in this thread shortly. - NedoftheHill - 11:48pm 11/12/25
  - My main purpose is to reach common ground on ways to reduce the # of abortions w/o sacrificing the - TyroneIrish - 1:28am 11/13/25
    - As a "man" who is fallen away... I'm still very uncomfortable with late term abortions. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 8:32am 11/13/25
      - Let's not forget what it was like for women with unwanted pregnancies prior to Roe v Wade... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:25pm 11/13/25
      - Then it’s good you won’t get pregnant especially at your advanced age. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:37am 11/13/25
    - That’s quite the pretzel [NT] - irish93 - 7:39am 11/13/25
      - Not at all... - TyroneIrish - 1:40pm 11/13/25
        That post makes sense. The BS in your other post does not. [NT] - irish93 - 1:50pm 11/13/25
        My bad for not repeating those thoughts more often...btw, this wasn't the first time. Glad you agree - TyroneIrish - 4:47pm 11/13/25