will by force or coercion?...i.e. do you deny a woman's right to choose whether or not to carry such a pregnancy to term? This is the essence of the Abortion Debate. On behalf of the vast majority of Americans...I'm asking you...
What's your position?
It's very simple...Women can bear a child...but MUST they do so even when impregnated against their
Replies to: "It's very simple...Women can bear a child...but MUST they do so even when impregnated against their"
- Ty caught in yet another lie, this time about the RCC and "personhood" at conception - MarkHarman - 11:27pm 11/12/25
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- The Church teaches every human has a soul from conception onward. - BaronVonZemo - 12:57pm 11/13/25
- The Leadership in Baron's Medical Specialty, Obstetrics & Gynecology, has a Policy on Abortion... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:45am 11/14/25
- So aborted zygotes go to heaven? Are there millions of them up there? [NT]
- Chris94 - 2:16pm 11/13/25
- Yes, that is Church teaching. But those with mortal sin cannot. - BaronVonZemo - 4:55pm 11/13/25
- Baron's protestations notwithstanding, read the acknowledgment in the "Where Peter Is" article - TyroneIrish - 7:38pm 11/13/25
- What is your endgame with this "personhood"? That the RCC is okay with abortion at some point? [NT]
- MarkHarman - 6:42am 11/14/25
- Good question...which I answered in my 1:28am and 1:40pm posts yesterday...check them out and get - TyroneIrish - 12:19pm 11/14/25
- What is your endgame with this "personhood"? That the RCC is okay with abortion at some point? [NT]
- MarkHarman - 6:42am 11/14/25
- Baron's protestations notwithstanding, read the acknowledgment in the "Where Peter Is" article - TyroneIrish - 7:38pm 11/13/25
- Yes. Donum Vitae. [NT]
- Hensou - 2:24pm 11/13/25
- Donum Vitae does not state that... - TyroneIrish - 2:42pm 11/13/25
- Extremely, EXTREMELY weird and ILLOGICAL mental gymnastics here - MarkHarman - 5:17pm 11/13/25
- Read the article again…and note distinction the author makes between “”Treated As” and “Definitively - TyroneIrish - 9:12pm 11/13/25
- Extremely, EXTREMELY weird and ILLOGICAL mental gymnastics here - MarkHarman - 5:17pm 11/13/25
- Heaven is full of zyotes then. Just floating there, without consciousness. Cool. [NT]
- Chris94 - 2:34pm 11/13/25
- Consciousness doesn't begin until 3-4 and is only fully developed around 7. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 6:54pm 11/13/25
- Oh sure that makes sense [NT]
- Chris94 - 9:01pm 11/13/25
- It's a hotly debated topic, from your guy Steven Pinker. - iairishcheeks - 12:39pm 11/14/25
- Oh sure that makes sense [NT]
- Chris94 - 9:01pm 11/13/25
- You think self awareness is determined by a physical organ - BaronVonZemo - 5:42pm 11/13/25
- Donum Vitae clearly states that human life begins at conception. - Hensou - 3:02pm 11/13/25
- Donum Vitae notes the distinction between the development of a human being and a person...which - TyroneIrish - 3:22pm 11/13/25
- The large majority of conceptions result in either failure to implant, or miscarriage...the RCC gave - TyroneIrish - 2:47pm 11/13/25
- Consciousness doesn't begin until 3-4 and is only fully developed around 7. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 6:54pm 11/13/25
- Donum Vitae does not state that... - TyroneIrish - 2:42pm 11/13/25
- Yes, that is Church teaching. But those with mortal sin cannot. - BaronVonZemo - 4:55pm 11/13/25
- I'm right here, Baron...this whole thread involves my comments on the abortion issue...address me - TyroneIrish - 1:15pm 11/13/25
- Ty’s handlers hate Jesus and anything to do with virtue [NT]
- LanceManion - 6:38am 11/13/25
- The 80-90% of Americans who agree with me have every bit as much "Virtue" as you do, maybe - TyroneIrish - 1:28pm 11/13/25
- Jesus has been transformed into their image and likeness. - Hensou - 9:45am 11/13/25
- Did Google AI summaries supplant ex cathedra Papal teachings? [NT] - ND521 - 2:04am 11/13/25
- I'll take America Magazine's verified direct quote from Pope Francis over your source, Mark...same - TyroneIrish - 1:17am 11/13/25
- Pope Francis talking off the cuff does not equal RCC doctrine - MarkHarman - 8:22am 11/13/25
- It was a phrase excerpted out of a discussion and then deliberately misinterpreted... - TakethetrainKnute - 9:19am 11/13/25
- Not true...on 11/28/2022 America Magazine published Francis' remarks on fetal personhood...Francis [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 12:55pm 11/13/25
- For the millionth time, you're trying to make a ridiculous and absurd analogy. - jakers - 1:51pm 11/13/25
- You can't parse the meaning of "Killing"...face up to it...par. 2309 of the RCC Catechism allows for - TyroneIrish - 3:07pm 11/13/25
- And you're back to the old "coerced" pregnancies canard. That was laughed at already. Try harder. [NT]
- jakers - 3:20pm 11/13/25
- Do you not understand what "Coerced Means"?...many millions of women do...and it's not a benign - TyroneIrish - 3:44pm 11/13/25
- Yeah, it's YOU who doesn't understand the meaning of coerced. - jakers - 3:48pm 11/13/25
- From Webster's Dictionary..."Synonyms...arm-twisting, compulsion, constraint, duress, - TyroneIrish - 4:33pm 11/13/25
- Exactly. - jakers - 4:58pm 11/13/25
- Are you admitting that you favor NO RECOURSE for women subjected to Forced or Coerced pregnancies? - TyroneIrish - 5:31pm 11/13/25
- You know damn well that isn't what I said. - jakers - 6:34pm 11/13/25
- All I’m asking for is a straight answer…Yes or No? [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 9:22pm 11/13/25
- We're talking about your blatant misrepresentation, not my socio-political beliefs. - jakers - 1:06pm 11/14/25
- My question goes to the very root of the issue, i.e. should women have the right to choose abortion - TyroneIrish - 2:14pm 11/14/25
- So you're not going to own your lie? Got it - you're burrowing in on an unrelated question. [NT]
- jakers - 5:24pm 11/14/25
- It's very simple...Women can bear a child...but MUST they do so even when impregnated against their - TyroneIrish - 12:13am 11/15/25
- So you're not going to own your lie? Got it - you're burrowing in on an unrelated question. [NT]
- jakers - 5:24pm 11/14/25
- You're asking him to cease his raison d'être... [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 1:39pm 11/14/25
- I stand with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists' Policy on Abortion...what's - TyroneIrish - 3:12pm 11/14/25
- My question goes to the very root of the issue, i.e. should women have the right to choose abortion - TyroneIrish - 2:14pm 11/14/25
- We're talking about your blatant misrepresentation, not my socio-political beliefs. - jakers - 1:06pm 11/14/25
- All I’m asking for is a straight answer…Yes or No? [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 9:22pm 11/13/25
- You know damn well that isn't what I said. - jakers - 6:34pm 11/13/25
- Are you admitting that you favor NO RECOURSE for women subjected to Forced or Coerced pregnancies? - TyroneIrish - 5:31pm 11/13/25
- Exactly. - jakers - 4:58pm 11/13/25
- From Webster's Dictionary..."Synonyms...arm-twisting, compulsion, constraint, duress, - TyroneIrish - 4:33pm 11/13/25
- Yeah, it's YOU who doesn't understand the meaning of coerced. - jakers - 3:48pm 11/13/25
- Do you not understand what "Coerced Means"?...many millions of women do...and it's not a benign - TyroneIrish - 3:44pm 11/13/25
- And you're back to the old "coerced" pregnancies canard. That was laughed at already. Try harder. [NT]
- jakers - 3:20pm 11/13/25
- He doesn't care...been addressed and undressed on this one repeatedly, Clearly feels he gains points - TakethetrainKnute - 2:48pm 11/13/25
- I find this hilarious - Hensou - 3:14pm 11/13/25
- Only a coward would not confront his 'opponent' in a debate...you're doing it again...shameless. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 3:47pm 11/13/25
- I'm not the only one...80-90% of ALL Americans disagree that abortion should be illegal in all - TyroneIrish - 3:13pm 11/13/25
- Legality and morality are 2 very different things, which you of course know. - jakers - 3:22pm 11/13/25
- Bingo. [NT]
- Hensou - 3:25pm 11/13/25
- Once again, the Coward chimes in... [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 3:52pm 11/13/25
- Be careful who you're calling a coward. You're afraid to read Dr. Risch's paper [NT]
- MarkHarman - 5:20pm 11/13/25
- I have engaged with you on the subject of HCQ+ hundreds of times...that issue was decided - TyroneIrish - 5:37pm 11/13/25
- Until you read Dr. Risch's paper, you are coming from a position of complete and total ignorance [NT]
- MarkHarman - 6:43am 11/14/25
- I'll just have to live with that...at least I'm not obsessive over it...let it go, Mark. - TyroneIrish - 11:55am 11/14/25
- Until you read Dr. Risch's paper, you are coming from a position of complete and total ignorance [NT]
- MarkHarman - 6:43am 11/14/25
- I have engaged with you on the subject of HCQ+ hundreds of times...that issue was decided - TyroneIrish - 5:37pm 11/13/25
- Be careful who you're calling a coward. You're afraid to read Dr. Risch's paper [NT]
- MarkHarman - 5:20pm 11/13/25
- Once again, the Coward chimes in... [NT]
- TyroneIrish - 3:52pm 11/13/25
- Bingo. [NT]
- Hensou - 3:25pm 11/13/25
- Legality and morality are 2 very different things, which you of course know. - jakers - 3:22pm 11/13/25
- I find this hilarious - Hensou - 3:14pm 11/13/25
- You can't parse the meaning of "Killing"...face up to it...par. 2309 of the RCC Catechism allows for - TyroneIrish - 3:07pm 11/13/25
- For the millionth time, you're trying to make a ridiculous and absurd analogy. - jakers - 1:51pm 11/13/25
- I think this is a well-spoken and fair assessment. [NT]
- Hensou - 9:29am 11/13/25
- You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but do me the courtesy of responding to it...i.e. engage - TyroneIrish - 1:11pm 11/13/25
- Not true...on 11/28/2022 America Magazine published Francis' remarks on fetal personhood...Francis [LINK]
- TyroneIrish - 12:55pm 11/13/25
- It was a phrase excerpted out of a discussion and then deliberately misinterpreted... - TakethetrainKnute - 9:19am 11/13/25
- Pope Francis talking off the cuff does not equal RCC doctrine - MarkHarman - 8:22am 11/13/25
- He's repeated that lie a dozen times. Expect him to repeat it here in this thread shortly. - NedoftheHill - 11:48pm 11/12/25
- My main purpose is to reach common ground on ways to reduce the # of abortions w/o sacrificing the - TyroneIrish - 1:28am 11/13/25
- As a "man" who is fallen away... I'm still very uncomfortable with late term abortions. [LINK]
- Curly1918 - 8:32am 11/13/25
- Let's not forget what it was like for women with unwanted pregnancies prior to Roe v Wade... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:25pm 11/13/25
- Then it’s good you won’t get pregnant especially at your advanced age. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:37am 11/13/25
- That’s quite the pretzel [NT]
- irish93 - 7:39am 11/13/25
- Not at all... - TyroneIrish - 1:40pm 11/13/25
- That post makes sense. The BS in your other post does not. [NT]
- irish93 - 1:50pm 11/13/25
- My bad for not repeating those thoughts more often...btw, this wasn't the first time. Glad you agree - TyroneIrish - 4:47pm 11/13/25
- That post makes sense. The BS in your other post does not. [NT]
- irish93 - 1:50pm 11/13/25
- Not at all... - TyroneIrish - 1:40pm 11/13/25
- As a "man" who is fallen away... I'm still very uncomfortable with late term abortions. [LINK]
- Curly1918 - 8:32am 11/13/25
- My main purpose is to reach common ground on ways to reduce the # of abortions w/o sacrificing the - TyroneIrish - 1:28am 11/13/25
- The Church teaches every human has a soul from conception onward. - BaronVonZemo - 12:57pm 11/13/25