No, it's defelection rather than addressing the issue at hand

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No, it's defelection rather than addressing the issue at hand

Author: Chris94 (37661 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:26 pm on Nov 17, 2025

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Here, it was the Pope condemning Trump's immigration policies. Unless you think that Ned just happened to want to talk about abortion and gay marriage, and it was all a coincidence.

It helps MAGA simpletons sleep at night, because they can assure themselves that the fundamental hypocrisy of the left actually excuses everything Trump does. Both sides do it! Whatabout Obama!

Replies to: "No, it's defelection rather than addressing the issue at hand"

Pope Leo XIV voices his objections to abortion and gay marriage. Who stands with Pope Leo? [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 8:42pm 11/16/25 (41) [View All]
- Consistent with every other Pope on the issue and Church doctrine. There is no debate. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:24am 11/17/25
- So, exactly as all Popes and the Church have always said. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:21am 11/17/25
- This entire post is essentially a whatabout - Chris94 - 9:18am 11/17/25
  - Ned is a walking “Whatabout.” [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:09am 11/17/25
    - It's not a whatabout. It's been an ongoing issue on the board for years with people trying to spin - BaronVonZemo - 11:23am 11/17/25
      - No, it's defelection rather than addressing the issue at hand - Chris94 - 12:26pm 11/17/25
        I didn't want to talk about abortion & gay marriage. I wanted to talk about the Left using Pope Leo - NedoftheHill - 12:58pm 11/17/25
      - Chris doesn't like me pointing out people spinning the truth for falsehood's sake, thus his... - NedoftheHill - 11:42am 11/17/25
        It is a weak response produced by lack of legitimate rebuttal. Then there is ganging up by others w/ - BaronVonZemo - 11:46am 11/17/25
    - Whataboutism only works against hypocrisy. Granted, its not a whatabout because... - NedoftheHill - 11:22am 11/17/25
  - Isn't that the truth...when confronted with challenging questions or facts, Ned, and others resort - TyroneIrish - 10:01am 11/17/25
  - It is essentially calling out conor for not really standing with Leo, and Tyrone for using religion - NedoftheHill - 10:01am 11/17/25
- Not on those issues. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:17pm 11/16/25
  - Do you draw any lines when it come to these issues? - Curly1918 - 6:16am 11/17/25
    - I leave abortion issues up to women to decide their own fates. That’s My opinion - jimbasil - 9:23am 11/17/25
      - Agree 100% when it comes to the woman's body. Also believe that w.r.t. the baby's body. - NedoftheHill - 1:11pm 11/17/25
      - Why stop there when the human infant is years behind the maturity of a chimp? [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:33am 11/17/25
        When it comes to another’s body keep your opinion to yourself. Live your life not someone else’s. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:54am 11/17/25
- Translation: Ned does not believe in separation of church and state. [NT] - conorlarkin - 9:48pm 11/16/25
  - So, do you stand with Leo or not? - NedoftheHill - 10:33pm 11/16/25
    - I respect the Pope’s views. - conorlarkin - 7:17am 11/17/25
      - Only God can condemn people, we do not. But we must condemn the action of taking human life in all - BaronVonZemo - 11:38am 11/17/25
        Exactly. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:13pm 11/17/25
      - Let's find some common ground...but I know we will disagree on proper scope of government. - NedoftheHill - 10:22am 11/17/25
  - You use popes, Catholicism, and ultimately, God, when they suit you politically. You ignore them - MAS - 10:26pm 11/16/25
    - Bwahahahaha [NT] - Frankx - 10:56pm 11/16/25
- "Pope Leo XIV says "inhuman treatment of immigrants in the U.S. isn't Pro-Life"...stop avoiding the [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:26pm 11/16/25
  - How expansive is your definition of the word “inhumane?” [NT] - Curly1918 - 6:18am 11/17/25
  - You're the last person to lecture someone about pro-life [NT] - MarkHarman - 12:31am 11/17/25
    - Yeah Mark, pay attention. The board narcissist has spoken [NT] - Frankx - 9:35am 11/17/25
      - Read what Pope Leo is saying about those who call themselves "Pro-Lifers"...and what our USCCB is - TyroneIrish - 10:19am 11/17/25
        Nope, could care less what he says, or you [NT] - Frankx - 1:13pm 11/17/25
    - Pay attention, Mark...it's Pope Leo XIV who's lecturing "Pro-Lifers" about inhumane - TyroneIrish - 2:53am 11/17/25
  - The topic in this thread is abortion and gay marriage. Do you stand with Leo or not? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:32pm 11/16/25
    - LOL...the topic of "Pope Leo XIV" got started with my thread...answer my question...then I'll be - TyroneIrish - 10:57pm 11/16/25
      - You have helped me make my point. Thank you. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:21am 11/17/25
        And you accuse others of being disingenuous...answer the question I posed first about Pope Leo XIV.. - TyroneIrish - 2:55am 11/17/25
        
        Tyrone is here to tell YOU that he thinks you should be a cafeteria Catholic… - TakethetrainKnute - 2:36am 11/17/25
        What's your response to Pope Leo XIV's admonition to "Pro-Life" Catholics about inhumane treatment - TyroneIrish - 2:58am 11/17/25
  - You can't ignore this reinforcement that you're evil. [NT] - jakers - 9:30pm 11/16/25
    - Answer the question...I'll respond to your accusation in another thread...Where do you stand with - TyroneIrish - 10:21pm 11/16/25