Agree 100% when it comes to the woman's body. Also believe that w.r.t. the baby's body.

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Agree 100% when it comes to the woman's body. Also believe that w.r.t. the baby's body.

Author: NedoftheHill (45497 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Nov 17, 2025

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Both have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The only difference between us is that you believe that with regard to one of those two people, whereas I believe it for both of them. But that is why this is a difficult problem, since two fundamental rights (life and liberty) are in conflict. Notably, I don't believe liberty trumps life (that is anarchy). Life should come first.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: "Agree 100% when it comes to the woman's body. Also believe that w.r.t. the baby's body."

Pope Leo XIV voices his objections to abortion and gay marriage. Who stands with Pope Leo? [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 8:42pm 11/16/25 (41) [View All]
- Consistent with every other Pope on the issue and Church doctrine. There is no debate. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:24am 11/17/25
- So, exactly as all Popes and the Church have always said. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:21am 11/17/25
- This entire post is essentially a whatabout - Chris94 - 9:18am 11/17/25
  - Ned is a walking “Whatabout.” [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:09am 11/17/25
    - It's not a whatabout. It's been an ongoing issue on the board for years with people trying to spin - BaronVonZemo - 11:23am 11/17/25
      - No, it's defelection rather than addressing the issue at hand - Chris94 - 12:26pm 11/17/25
        I didn't want to talk about abortion & gay marriage. I wanted to talk about the Left using Pope Leo - NedoftheHill - 12:58pm 11/17/25
      - Chris doesn't like me pointing out people spinning the truth for falsehood's sake, thus his... - NedoftheHill - 11:42am 11/17/25
        It is a weak response produced by lack of legitimate rebuttal. Then there is ganging up by others w/ - BaronVonZemo - 11:46am 11/17/25
    - Whataboutism only works against hypocrisy. Granted, its not a whatabout because... - NedoftheHill - 11:22am 11/17/25
  - Isn't that the truth...when confronted with challenging questions or facts, Ned, and others resort - TyroneIrish - 10:01am 11/17/25
  - It is essentially calling out conor for not really standing with Leo, and Tyrone for using religion - NedoftheHill - 10:01am 11/17/25
- Not on those issues. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:17pm 11/16/25
  - Do you draw any lines when it come to these issues? - Curly1918 - 6:16am 11/17/25
    - I leave abortion issues up to women to decide their own fates. That’s My opinion - jimbasil - 9:23am 11/17/25
      - Agree 100% when it comes to the woman's body. Also believe that w.r.t. the baby's body. - NedoftheHill - 1:11pm 11/17/25
      - Why stop there when the human infant is years behind the maturity of a chimp? [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:33am 11/17/25
        When it comes to another’s body keep your opinion to yourself. Live your life not someone else’s. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:54am 11/17/25
- Translation: Ned does not believe in separation of church and state. [NT] - conorlarkin - 9:48pm 11/16/25
  - So, do you stand with Leo or not? - NedoftheHill - 10:33pm 11/16/25
    - I respect the Pope’s views. - conorlarkin - 7:17am 11/17/25
      - Only God can condemn people, we do not. But we must condemn the action of taking human life in all - BaronVonZemo - 11:38am 11/17/25
        Exactly. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:13pm 11/17/25
      - Let's find some common ground...but I know we will disagree on proper scope of government. - NedoftheHill - 10:22am 11/17/25
  - You use popes, Catholicism, and ultimately, God, when they suit you politically. You ignore them - MAS - 10:26pm 11/16/25
    - Bwahahahaha [NT] - Frankx - 10:56pm 11/16/25
- "Pope Leo XIV says "inhuman treatment of immigrants in the U.S. isn't Pro-Life"...stop avoiding the [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:26pm 11/16/25
  - How expansive is your definition of the word “inhumane?” [NT] - Curly1918 - 6:18am 11/17/25
  - You're the last person to lecture someone about pro-life [NT] - MarkHarman - 12:31am 11/17/25
    - Yeah Mark, pay attention. The board narcissist has spoken [NT] - Frankx - 9:35am 11/17/25
      - Read what Pope Leo is saying about those who call themselves "Pro-Lifers"...and what our USCCB is - TyroneIrish - 10:19am 11/17/25
        Nope, could care less what he says, or you [NT] - Frankx - 1:13pm 11/17/25
    - Pay attention, Mark...it's Pope Leo XIV who's lecturing "Pro-Lifers" about inhumane - TyroneIrish - 2:53am 11/17/25
  - The topic in this thread is abortion and gay marriage. Do you stand with Leo or not? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:32pm 11/16/25
    - LOL...the topic of "Pope Leo XIV" got started with my thread...answer my question...then I'll be - TyroneIrish - 10:57pm 11/16/25
      - You have helped me make my point. Thank you. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:21am 11/17/25
        And you accuse others of being disingenuous...answer the question I posed first about Pope Leo XIV.. - TyroneIrish - 2:55am 11/17/25
        
        Tyrone is here to tell YOU that he thinks you should be a cafeteria Catholic… - TakethetrainKnute - 2:36am 11/17/25
        What's your response to Pope Leo XIV's admonition to "Pro-Life" Catholics about inhumane treatment - TyroneIrish - 2:58am 11/17/25
  - You can't ignore this reinforcement that you're evil. [NT] - jakers - 9:30pm 11/16/25
    - Answer the question...I'll respond to your accusation in another thread...Where do you stand with - TyroneIrish - 10:21pm 11/16/25