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Seems a bit transgender-phobic, but whatever.

Author: NedoftheHill (45601 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)
Posted at 12:15 am on Dec 3, 2025
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When you prosecute the Navy personnel involved, will you also prosecute Seal Team Six which engaged in what they themselves described as "a kill operation" within Bin Laden's compound? (Sorry, Chris, if you didn't say, "whatabout school shooters," you don't get to say "whatabout Seal Team Six.") They even prepared to take out the bin Laden compound with enough ordinance to kill every woman and child within, and several nearby homes of likely innocent people to boot. Will you prosecute Obama and everyone in the chain of command for that operation, just like Chris says he would do of Trump and the cartel strikes?

Victories over terrorists and cartels are not measured in land captured. Victories are measured in deaths of the enemy. Obama knew that. The GOP knew that, and didn't attack Obama for acting on that reality. Trump knows that, too. You would prosecute Trump, but not Obama, because you are about political power, not constitutional rights or international law.

The cartels are killing more people in the US than the 9/11 hijackers killed...and they are continuing to do so. The cartels aren't US citizens. They don't have territory. They don't wear uniforms. They won't surrender. They kill American citizens for profit. Why do you seek to extend constitutional and treaty rights to them that they do not have? Why do you defend them? Why not fight them, and defend American citizens instead, like Obama did and Trump is doing?

Honestly, when all this started, I had to consider whether this was a good idea. But, the more I think about it, the more reasonable our attacks seem. The cartels are evil, and past efforts to capture them have failed to stop Americans from being killed by them. Hard to argue against trying something else...something more effective. I'm willing to discuss it, and I reserve the right to change my mind. It is just hard to have more sympathy for the cartels than for the American citizens they are killing for profit. You seem to be able to have more sympathy for them than for Americans; I'm just having a hard time with that.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Replies to: "Seems a bit transgender-phobic, but whatever."

  • I totally stand behind Adm Bradley. He acted on his own, you know, like a hero. [LINK] - Chris94 - 8:36pm 12/1/25 (32) [View All]
    • New thought: what does victory look like in the wars on terror and drugs? - NedoftheHill - 2:31pm 12/2/25
      • Great idea Ned! Let’s kill all white Americans who resemble school shooters. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:45pm 12/2/25
        • Seems a bit transgender-phobic, but whatever. - NedoftheHill - 12:15am 12/3/25
          • You are adopting Duterte’s war on drugs as a license to kill. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 4:35am 12/3/25
          • He’s just gotten bizarre [NT] - Frankx - 12:58am 12/3/25
      • Are we to give up on our Constitution and Due Process foundations? No evidence has been provided by - TyroneIrish - 3:40pm 12/2/25
        • No. Why would you suggest doing that? Are we to extend those rights to non-cit, terrorists overseas? - NedoftheHill - 7:23pm 12/2/25
          • "Trump should be bombing the cartels"...and here I thought you wanted "Intelligent Discussion" ;-) - TyroneIrish - 9:16pm 12/2/25
    • Any doubt that Hegseth is drinking again? [NT] - conorlarkin - 10:07pm 12/1/25
      • He thinks that rules of engagement are for pussies - Chris94 - 8:13am 12/2/25
        • Hegseth miscalculated that the military brass has his back. - conorlarkin - 8:48am 12/2/25
          • I wonder if the admiral asked for an order in writing [LINK] - Chris94 - 10:03am 12/2/25
    • Would you prosecute him for war crimes? If not, why not? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:17pm 12/1/25
      • Yep. Hegseth first, then the admiral, for executing an illegal order. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:58pm 12/1/25
      • Defense Department Law of War Manual 18.3.2.1 — - conorlarkin - 9:59pm 12/1/25
        • Geez, conor. I wasn't asking about the law; I was asking if Chris/Dems would prosecute the military. - NedoftheHill - 2:21am 12/2/25
          • We executed Japanese naval officers for this crime - Chris94 - 8:00am 12/2/25
            • Hilarious. Is there nothing the liberal media puts out that you won't believe? [NT] - PaND - 8:43am 12/2/25
              • Uh…it happened, dumb ass. Why do you constantly do “drive by” posts?… - Domer From Hell - 9:38am 12/2/25
                • Yeah, drive-bys are a problem - Mark - 11:17am 12/2/25
          • Wouldn’t the law be the starting point? Then apply the facts. - conorlarkin - 3:36am 12/2/25
            • The post above is locked? We aren't supposed to mention the Tokyo War Crimes Trials? [NT] - Chris94 - 11:59am 12/2/25
              • The thread being locked is my fault. Sorry [NT] - Domer From Hell - 1:15pm 12/2/25
        • But since this was not a war, then it’s murder. Time for Trump to issue more pardons. [NT] - conorlarkin - 10:23pm 12/1/25
          • We haven't had a war since 1945. Do you think the law of war might apply in non-war conflicts? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:22am 12/2/25
            • Don’t be daft. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 3:33am 12/2/25
              • So, you think the US military is just murdering people, not defending US citizens? - NedoftheHill - 1:57pm 12/2/25
                • The US military’s involvement does not make the law irrelevant. Quite the contrary. It heightens it. - conorlarkin - 7:36pm 12/2/25
                  • Obama set the precedent, if the trailer park meth lab kingpins leave the country, drone strike - iairishcheeks - 4:38pm 12/3/25
                    • The Obama authorized drone strikes are not synonomous. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:45pm 12/3/25
                      • You're going to have to make a better argument than that. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:45pm 12/3/25
            • Are you drunk? [NT] - jimbasil - 2:43am 12/2/25
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