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Pete Hegseth has a track record of disregarding legal advice on Rules of Engagement...ergo, it would

Author: TyroneIrish (22802 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:46 am on Dec 5, 2025
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not be out of character for him to convey the desire to "Kill Them All" in these boat strikes. Hopefully, the American public will be able to see the full, un-edited strike videos and have all involved persons testify under oath as to what transpired...for the entire program.

For those who have trouble clicking on links...here's an excerpt from the Guardian article...This is the real Pete Hegseth...totally at odds with long established American Rules of Engagement...He needs to be investigated and in th opinion of many...prosecuted.
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In the book, The War on Warriors, Hegseth relates a story about a legal briefing at the beginning of his service in Iraq, in which he told the men under his command to ignore guidance from a military judge advocate general’s (JAG) attorney’s guidance about the rules of engagement in the conflict.

Hegseth writes that “upon arrival in Iraq”, the men were briefed “regarding the latest ‘in theater’ rules of engagement”, adding: “Needless to say, no infantrymen like army lawyers – which is why JAG officers are often not so affectionately known as ‘jagoffs’.”

He added of JAG lawyers: “Most spend more time prosecuting our troops than they do putting away bad guys. It’s easier to get promoted that way.”

Hegseth writes that in explaining the rules of engagement, the JAG officer “used the example of an identified enemy holding a rocket-propelled grenade”, asking Hegseth’s platoon: “‘Do you shoot at him?’”

“And my guys were like, ‘Hell, yeah, we light him up,’” Hegseth writes.

According to Hegseth, the JAG officer responded: “‘Wrong answer, men. You are not authorized to fire at that man, until that RPG becomes a threat. It must be pointed at you with the intent to fire. That makes it a legal and proper engagement.’”


Hegseth writes that in response: “We sat in silence, stunned.”

He then instructed his men to ignore the legal advice.

“After this briefing, I pulled my platoon together, huddling amid their confusion to tell them, ‘I will not allow that nonsense to filter into your brains. Men, if you see an enemy who you believe is a threat, you engage and destroy the threat. That’s a bullshit rule that’s going to get people killed. And I will have your back – just like our commander. We are coming home, the enemy will not.’”


The Guardian contacted the Department of Defense for comment.

Prof David M Crane, a former chief prosecutor of the UN special court for Sierra Leone, distinguished scholar in residence at Syracuse University College of Law and an army veteran with 20 years’ service, including stints as a JAG attorney, said obeying rules of engagement was crucial and that those who break them should face sanction.

“After the tragedy of My Lai in 1968, we have tried to avoid another one and prosecute those that do in fact stray. And that happened particularly in Iraq, at Fallujah, and other places in defense, where we had some marines go south and commit war crimes, and they’re prosecuted for it,” he said.

He added: “These rules go all the way up the chain of command. I mean, it goes all the way to the president of the United States, who is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the United States.


“So if there’s an illegal order that goes all the way down, then all of them have committed a war crime. It’s not just a single guy in the airplane, the jet aircraft, firing those missiles at the boat. Yes, they are following an illegal order, but it goes all the way up all the way to the president.”

In his book, however, Hegseth called into question the entire edifice of laws of conflict, writing: “If our warriors are forced to follow rules arbitrarily and asked to sacrifice more lives so that international tribunals feel better about themselves, aren’t we just better off winning our wars according to our own rules?! Who cares what other countries think.”

In Trump’s first term, Hegseth successfully campaigned for the pardon of two army officers and the reversal of disciplinary measures on a Navy Seal, each of whom were either charged with or convicted of war crimes. He has expressed admiration for his former commanding officer, the now retired army colonel and, according to Hegseth, “certified badass” Michael Steele, who was reprimanded after reportedly ordering soldiers in 2006 in Iraq to “kill all military-age males” in a raid.

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Link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/02/hegseth-us-soldiers-iraq-rules-engagement

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Replies to: "Pete Hegseth has a track record of disregarding legal advice on Rules of Engagement...ergo, it would"

  • Pete Hegseth has a track record of disregarding legal advice on Rules of Engagement...ergo, it would [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:46am 12/5/25 (23) [View All]
    • Two important points re the intentional killing of the shipwrecked survivors: - conorlarkin - 2:32pm 12/5/25
      • Apparently no one on here recalls IJN Kaga, dead in the water, burning and filled with wounded - JarHead4ND - 12:37am 12/7/25
        • The Kaga was an key Japanese asset that needed to be eliminated...as for the surviving sailors... - TyroneIrish - 1:52am 12/7/25
          • Try google for the rationale behind the order to torpedo IJN Kaga was given. - JarHead4ND - 9:52am 12/7/25
            • My Googling (Wikipedia, AI) shows the Kaga scuttled by Japanese vessels after Midway battle...and - TyroneIrish - 1:59am 12/8/25
      • Those "survivors" weren't castaways from the SS Minnow. [NT] - ELP - 4:32pm 12/5/25
      • Were you as upset when your king was doing this repeatedly? [LINK] - Iggle - 3:38pm 12/5/25
        • Obama’s drone strike policy was different. - conorlarkin - 5:39pm 12/5/25
          • He did double taps constantly, including weddings and funerals. - Iggle - 7:12pm 12/5/25
            • between 282 and 535 civilians have been credibly reported as killed including more than 60 children. - TyroneIrish - 8:00pm 12/5/25
        • While Obama continued a program initiated by the Bush admin, he introduced several caveats [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 4:37pm 12/5/25
    • LOL...this downvoting w/o comments is getting laughable...obviously such posts strike a nerve, but - TyroneIrish - 1:21pm 12/5/25
      • Mr Roboto, if I may. What's striking a nerve are all the downvotes. LOL. You obsess about it. [NT] - ELP - 4:30pm 12/5/25
        • In fairness, down voting is some pussified passive aggressive bull shit… [NT] - Domer From Hell - 7:29pm 12/5/25
          • 100% agreeance. - Rooney - 7:07am 12/6/25
            • I have a small handful on Ignore. - jakers - 9:47am 12/6/25
        • What strikes me is the unwillingness of folks like yourself to enter into discussions of issues that - TyroneIrish - 4:58pm 12/5/25
          • So cut and paste is now considered critical thinking? This might be an indictment on you. - ELP - 5:52pm 12/5/25
            • Do you realize that our words are archived for all to see? Wake up ELP...I just asked you to share - TyroneIrish - 7:04pm 12/5/25
              • Love the drama queen routine. Nobody cares what either of us has to say. [NT] - ELP - 10:42am 12/6/25
                • Which begs the question...why did you chime in? ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:06pm 12/6/25
                  • To ridicule your downvote obssesion. [NT] - ELP - 12:40pm 12/6/25
                    • i.e. act like a Troll...thanks for admitting it. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:44pm 12/6/25

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