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Remember back when you had trouble understanding the "Base Rate Fallacy"?...it appears that issue is

Author: TyroneIrish (22867 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:15 am on Dec 16, 2025
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still there...so, to help, here's an AI summary of the BRF...note the problem of always placing trust on statistically unsupported outliers...seems to be emblematic of your decision making...

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AI Overview

The base rate fallacy (or neglect) is a cognitive error where people ignore general statistical information (the "base rate") and focus too much on specific, case-based details, leading to poor probability judgments, like fearing rare plane crashes more than common car accidents because crashes are more memorable. It's a failure to consider the overall prevalence or frequency of an event, relying instead on intuitive, vivid, or anecdotal evidence, often resulting in skewed risk perception in medicine, finance, and daily life.

How it works

Ignoring context: You have a specific description (e.g., someone loves poetry and reading) and ignore the base rate (e.g., far more people play soccer than golf) to make a guess, says Scribbr.

Focusing on vivid details: Sensationalized stories or individual instances (like a successful startup) are more compelling than dry statistics (like the high failure rate of startups), leading you to misjudge future outcomes.

Examples
Medical Tests: Believing a rare disease is likely after a positive test, even if the base rate (how common it is) is very low, meaning the test's false positives are more common than true positives.

Finance: Investing heavily in a startup because you know one successful one, ignoring the typical failure rate for all startups, notes QuillBot.


Safety: Fearing flying more than driving, despite car accidents being statistically far more common.

How to avoid it
Consider the big picture: Always ask about the general prevalence or frequency of the event first.

Seek statistical evidence: Rely on data and statistics rather than just compelling stories or anecdotes, advises QuillBot.

Think critically: Recognize that an accurate test or a compelling story doesn't automatically change the underlying probability, especially for rare events, says Medium.

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Hope this helps.


Replies to: "Remember back when you had trouble understanding the "Base Rate Fallacy"?...it appears that issue is"

  • they won’t assimilate anywhere and take their hate everywhere [NT] [LINK] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:04am 12/14/25 (31) [View All]
    • Another holiday, another attack. - AlbanyIRISH - 1:59pm 12/14/25
      • Thanks for saying that. My childhood friends mom said that in front of me when I was 5? She was my - Frankx - 6:22pm 12/14/25
    • Hero amidst it all. He's ordinary. [NT] [LINK] - MAS - 9:25am 12/14/25
      • His failure to shoot the terrorist came back to bite him - MarkHarman - 6:48am 12/15/25
      • He'd be charged with a hate crime in NYC. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:57pm 12/14/25
        • And convicted on 34 counts. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:41pm 12/14/25
        • Yep [NT] - Frankx - 1:14pm 12/14/25
    • I wonder how they got those weapons. Australia has very strict gun laws. [NT] - Hensou - 8:48am 12/14/25
      • Presumably that's why the hero who took the gun had no idea what to do with it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:10pm 12/14/25
        • BTW, the hero's name is Ahmed al Ahmed...and he ended up suffering bullet wounds to his shoulder and - TyroneIrish - 12:06am 12/15/25
        • . [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:08pm 12/14/25
        • His mindset doesn’t lead him to kill unarmed people… - TyroneIrish - 4:19pm 12/14/25
      • Don't let Perfection get in the way of Progress...Australia's Mass Killings are 12X the U.S.'s... [IMAGE] - TyroneIrish - 11:12am 12/14/25
        • Have you given any thought to what weapons you would ban, and how you would do it? - NedoftheHill - 8:37pm 12/14/25
          • Start with the Federal Assault Weapons Ban...then add in "Buy Backs" and penalties for being caught [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:14am 12/15/25
            • For a mint-condition 1994 Colt Sporter HBAR, will the government pay market? Something like $2500? - NedoftheHill - 2:05am 12/15/25
              • Why do you cling to weapons that cause great harm, yet serve no societal benefit? - TyroneIrish - 2:18am 12/15/25
                • OK. So you don't know how to go about this. Let me know when you learn how you want to do it. - NedoftheHill - 10:59am 12/15/25
                  • We've actually banned assault weapons before, as I've shown you with the Wiki link...plus we have - TyroneIrish - 11:18am 12/15/25
                    • I'm curious if you think this weapon should be banned? It was explicitly exempted from the 1994 ban. [NT] [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 12:19pm 12/15/25
                    • "Buy backs" don't work in the US like elsewhere, ∴ I figured you might want to do it differently. - NedoftheHill - 12:13pm 12/15/25
                      • You offer no suggestions as to how the U.S. can get anywhere near the gun death rate of Australia, - TyroneIrish - 12:55pm 12/15/25
                        • I will wait until you answer my easy questions before I respond. (I won't hold my breath, though.) - NedoftheHill - 4:15pm 12/15/25
                          • This reminds me of a prior "discussion" we had...you haven't changed a bit...always interjecting [IMAGE] - TyroneIrish - 8:23pm 12/15/25
                            • This reminds me of how you are handling this discussion. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:44pm 12/15/25
                              • The issue for this sub-thread on gun violence...that you joined in on...is America's 12X higher - TyroneIrish - 12:32am 12/16/25
                    • By "ban assault weapons," you mean only ban new sales of some semi-automatic rifles. - NedoftheHill - 12:11pm 12/15/25
                • I love it. He's asking you very detailed, important questions and you are completely flummoxed - MarkHarman - 6:54am 12/15/25
                  • Remember back when you had trouble understanding the "Base Rate Fallacy"?...it appears that issue is - TyroneIrish - 1:15am 12/16/25
                  • When a retired Major General who commanded the Fort Benning Training Base calls for a Ban on [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:28am 12/15/25

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