OK. Let's discuss "legal,"since "justified" is argumentative.

| Register

OK. Let's discuss "legal,"since "justified" is argumentative.

Author: NedoftheHill (46159 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 8:17 pm on Jan 5, 2026

View All

Are all US court indictments of sitting heads of state illegal?...even ones not recognized by the United States?

Or, is the indictment legal, but the arrest was illegal? If the arrest was illegal, how could they have arrested Maduro in a legal way?

This message has been edited 2 time(s).

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: "OK. Let's discuss "legal,"since "justified" is argumentative."

CNN reported today (and in 2024), that Biden admin recognized Gonzalez, not Maduro, as VE president. - NedoftheHill - 7:26pm 1/5/26 (35) [View All]
- Oh my, this is embarrassing for some here. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:42pm 1/5/26
- Of course he did. And Clinton hated Saddam. - Chris94 - 7:38pm 1/5/26
  - Kidnap or arrest? Kidnap is more dramatic so of course you went with that one. Did you participate - TampaIrish - 7:49pm 1/5/26
    - Kidnap. [NT] - Chris94 - 7:53pm 1/5/26
      - What is the ransom? [NT] - Hensou - 8:25pm 1/5/26
        I can hear it now. Trump calling and asking for biggest, best and most beautiful ransom anyone - TampaIrish - 8:50pm 1/5/26
        300B barrels of oil and you can have dictator douchebag back. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:32pm 1/5/26
      - When law enforcement arrests an indicted individual, are they kidnaping or arresting? - NedoftheHill - 8:02pm 1/5/26
        Legal, justified arrests are not kidnapping. This was neither. [NT] - Chris94 - 8:10pm 1/5/26
        OK. Let's discuss "legal,"since "justified" is argumentative. - NedoftheHill - 8:17pm 1/5/26
        Again, I am talking about international law - Chris94 - 8:54pm 1/5/26
        Who decides if he is a legitimate head of state? - iairishcheeks - 9:18pm 1/5/26
        Legitimate or illegitimate, he was running the country - Chris94 - 9:21pm 1/5/26
        Don't you think Noriega/Panama is a better analog than whatabout Taiwan? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:31pm 1/5/26
        Interesting that we are getting to this: Those who oppose this action seem to be arguing... - NedoftheHill - 9:44pm 1/5/26
        Yes, that's the same conundrum I am facing in trying to understand what is "right". [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:53pm 1/5/26
        
        Panama is a best-case scenario. - Chris94 - 9:43pm 1/5/26
        It’s about giving bad actors “permission” to do what “the US just did.” - conorlarkin - 1:08am 1/6/26
        
        It would've been more credible if you'd led w your last line here when raging about illegality - BaronVonZemo - 11:05pm 1/5/26
        
        It's certainly better than the all out kinetic warfare you feared. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:51pm 1/5/26
        That is true. The build-up the Caribbean (which continues) just makes no sense, if this is it. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:33pm 1/5/26
        Hopefully it's to focus on the western hemisphere. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:47pm 1/5/26
        
        Your last line sums things up pretty well. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:48pm 1/5/26
  - Has anyone started a GoFundMe for Maduro yet? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:40pm 1/5/26
  - Ha! I didn't think this would be the topic which would reveal I'm not on ignore. Welcome back. - NedoftheHill - 7:40pm 1/5/26
    - Huh? I don't disagree with Biden. Maduro was/is a thug. A horrible cancer. [NT] - Chris94 - 7:46pm 1/5/26
      - That's not the issue. Blinken said Maduro wasn't president. He hadn't won the election. - NedoftheHill - 8:00pm 1/5/26
        Ends are the same. Means are different. Is that hard to grasp? [NT] - Chris94 - 8:10pm 1/5/26
        Are you talking about the end of bringing Maduro to justice, with two different means... - NedoftheHill - 8:28pm 1/5/26
      - Are you on the side of the Venezuelans celebrating or the protestors holding signs Free Maduro Now!? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:58pm 1/5/26
        Are you sure that Venezuelans are celebrating? I know I've watched lots of videos on X with - TampaIrish - 8:03pm 1/5/26
        Presume you are celebrating...with Cigar City Maduros... [NT] [IMAGE] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:15pm 1/5/26
        Going to have to head to Publix to see if they are carrying that and pick some up for this weekend. [NT] - TampaIrish - 8:24pm 1/5/26
        Buy a lottery ticket while you are there...the winner always bought it at a Publix. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:44pm 1/5/26

Consent Management