Trump's means of snatching Maduro from Caracas to bring Maduro to justice; and
Biden's means of doing nothing at all to bring Maduro to justice?
Honest question. I'm not trying to piss you off. I realize I may have misunderstood your point, so I welcome correction if I have misstated it.
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Are you talking about the end of bringing Maduro to justice, with two different means...
Replies to: "Are you talking about the end of bringing Maduro to justice, with two different means..."
- CNN reported today (and in 2024), that Biden admin recognized Gonzalez, not Maduro, as VE president. - NedoftheHill - 7:26pm 1/5/26
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- Oh my, this is embarrassing for some here. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:42pm 1/5/26
- Of course he did. And Clinton hated Saddam. - Chris94 - 7:38pm 1/5/26
- Kidnap or arrest? Kidnap is more dramatic so of course you went with that one. Did you participate - TampaIrish - 7:49pm 1/5/26
- Kidnap. [NT]
- Chris94 - 7:53pm 1/5/26
- What is the ransom? [NT]
- Hensou - 8:25pm 1/5/26
- I can hear it now. Trump calling and asking for biggest, best and most beautiful ransom anyone - TampaIrish - 8:50pm 1/5/26
- 300B barrels of oil and you can have dictator douchebag back. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:32pm 1/5/26
- I can hear it now. Trump calling and asking for biggest, best and most beautiful ransom anyone - TampaIrish - 8:50pm 1/5/26
- When law enforcement arrests an indicted individual, are they kidnaping or arresting? - NedoftheHill - 8:02pm 1/5/26
- Legal, justified arrests are not kidnapping. This was neither. [NT]
- Chris94 - 8:10pm 1/5/26
- OK. Let's discuss "legal,"since "justified" is argumentative. - NedoftheHill - 8:17pm 1/5/26
- Again, I am talking about international law - Chris94 - 8:54pm 1/5/26
- Who decides if he is a legitimate head of state? - iairishcheeks - 9:18pm 1/5/26
- Legitimate or illegitimate, he was running the country - Chris94 - 9:21pm 1/5/26
- Don't you think Noriega/Panama is a better analog than whatabout Taiwan? [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 9:31pm 1/5/26
- Interesting that we are getting to this: Those who oppose this action seem to be arguing... - NedoftheHill - 9:44pm 1/5/26
- Yes, that's the same conundrum I am facing in trying to understand what is "right". [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:53pm 1/5/26
- Panama is a best-case scenario. - Chris94 - 9:43pm 1/5/26
- It’s about giving bad actors “permission” to do what “the US just did.” - conorlarkin - 1:08am 1/6/26
- It would've been more credible if you'd led w your last line here when raging about illegality - BaronVonZemo - 11:05pm 1/5/26
- It's certainly better than the all out kinetic warfare you feared. [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 9:51pm 1/5/26
- That is true. The build-up the Caribbean (which continues) just makes no sense, if this is it. [NT]
- Chris94 - 10:33pm 1/5/26
- Hopefully it's to focus on the western hemisphere. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:47pm 1/5/26
- That is true. The build-up the Caribbean (which continues) just makes no sense, if this is it. [NT]
- Chris94 - 10:33pm 1/5/26
- Your last line sums things up pretty well. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:48pm 1/5/26
- Interesting that we are getting to this: Those who oppose this action seem to be arguing... - NedoftheHill - 9:44pm 1/5/26
- Don't you think Noriega/Panama is a better analog than whatabout Taiwan? [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 9:31pm 1/5/26
- Legitimate or illegitimate, he was running the country - Chris94 - 9:21pm 1/5/26
- Who decides if he is a legitimate head of state? - iairishcheeks - 9:18pm 1/5/26
- Again, I am talking about international law - Chris94 - 8:54pm 1/5/26
- OK. Let's discuss "legal,"since "justified" is argumentative. - NedoftheHill - 8:17pm 1/5/26
- Legal, justified arrests are not kidnapping. This was neither. [NT]
- Chris94 - 8:10pm 1/5/26
- What is the ransom? [NT]
- Hensou - 8:25pm 1/5/26
- Kidnap. [NT]
- Chris94 - 7:53pm 1/5/26
- Has anyone started a GoFundMe for Maduro yet? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:40pm 1/5/26
- Ha! I didn't think this would be the topic which would reveal I'm not on ignore. Welcome back. - NedoftheHill - 7:40pm 1/5/26
- Huh? I don't disagree with Biden. Maduro was/is a thug. A horrible cancer. [NT]
- Chris94 - 7:46pm 1/5/26
- That's not the issue. Blinken said Maduro wasn't president. He hadn't won the election. - NedoftheHill - 8:00pm 1/5/26
- Ends are the same. Means are different. Is that hard to grasp? [NT]
- Chris94 - 8:10pm 1/5/26
- Are you talking about the end of bringing Maduro to justice, with two different means... - NedoftheHill - 8:28pm 1/5/26
- Ends are the same. Means are different. Is that hard to grasp? [NT]
- Chris94 - 8:10pm 1/5/26
- Are you on the side of the Venezuelans celebrating or the protestors holding signs Free Maduro Now!? [NT]
- iairishcheeks - 7:58pm 1/5/26
- Are you sure that Venezuelans are celebrating? I know I've watched lots of videos on X with - TampaIrish - 8:03pm 1/5/26
- Presume you are celebrating...with Cigar City Maduros... [NT]
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- TakethetrainKnute - 8:15pm 1/5/26
- Going to have to head to Publix to see if they are carrying that and pick some up for this weekend. [NT]
- TampaIrish - 8:24pm 1/5/26
- Buy a lottery ticket while you are there...the winner always bought it at a Publix. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:44pm 1/5/26
- Going to have to head to Publix to see if they are carrying that and pick some up for this weekend. [NT]
- TampaIrish - 8:24pm 1/5/26
- Presume you are celebrating...with Cigar City Maduros... [NT]
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- TakethetrainKnute - 8:15pm 1/5/26
- Are you sure that Venezuelans are celebrating? I know I've watched lots of videos on X with - TampaIrish - 8:03pm 1/5/26
- That's not the issue. Blinken said Maduro wasn't president. He hadn't won the election. - NedoftheHill - 8:00pm 1/5/26
- Huh? I don't disagree with Biden. Maduro was/is a thug. A horrible cancer. [NT]
- Chris94 - 7:46pm 1/5/26
- Kidnap or arrest? Kidnap is more dramatic so of course you went with that one. Did you participate - TampaIrish - 7:49pm 1/5/26
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