Saw the video linked by Chris. Agent drew firearm the moment the car started advancing toward him.

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Saw the video linked by Chris. Agent drew firearm the moment the car started advancing toward him.

Author: NedoftheHill (45855 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:21 pm on Jan 7, 2026

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Rightly or wrongly, law enforcement agents will shoot when this happens. LEO's treat the vehicle as a firearm. If it is pointed at them and advances, they will shoot, and they are never held accountable. She pointed it at them, and advanced. I believe her goal was to continue past him, but she did put it in drive and advanced (the wheels even spun for a split second, so she gunned it) when the wheels were pointed directly at the ICE agent. As far as this instance is concerned, it is as if she had a gun, and aimed it at him temporarily while turning to walk away (although the LEO couldn't know her intent). LEO's will shoot when that happens. If it where a firearm, and it gets pointed at them once, they won't wait to see if it is pointed at them again.

Now, I have often thought that LEO's fire too quickly when it comes to the risk of people using vehicles as deadly weapons, and it seems a reasonable debate to have...set some rules. But this ICE agent did what any LEO would do...again, rightly or wrongly. Heck, even if the LEO is on the side, the will often fire because of the risk of falling under the rear tire. Again, I'm not sure this should be the law, but most states allow that.

If it were me, I would stop and follow the instructions of the law enforcement officers...even if the officers are wrong or are being unreasonable in that moment. I'm not sure why that is so hard for some people to do. The time to argue with the police officer is with a lawyer next to you in a court of law. Now, she won't have a chance to do that because she couldn't or wouldn't follow simple instructions.

Link: https://x.com/ScarboroughNow/status/2009005303841632288

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Replies to: "Saw the video linked by Chris. Agent drew firearm the moment the car started advancing toward him."

So,officers can shoot ladies climbing through windows in capitol,but not illegals gunning car at em? - BaronVonZemo - 4:43pm 1/7/26 (87) [View All]
- I believe you’re just simply an asshole. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:13pm 1/7/26
- You are Catholic in name only. [NT] - ND521 - 7:50pm 1/7/26
  - I'm curious. Do you believe in 100% of Church Doctrine? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:14pm 1/7/26
    - No answer from 521. Perhaps his accusation is from personal knowledge of being Catholic in name only [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:28pm 1/8/26
    - You're certainly not up to speed on RCC doctrine...so pump your brakes and let's discuss in a - TyroneIrish - 2:37am 1/8/26
      - Heh. Says the guy who gets his "Catholic Doctrine" from the DNC platform. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:04am 1/8/26
  - CINO? [NT] - Chris94 - 10:08pm 1/7/26
- I do believe she was an American. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:20pm 1/7/26
  - Everyone needs to obey the law..... - BaronVonZemo - 5:24pm 1/7/26
    - Killing US citizens who fail to comply with traffic stops is called murder. [NT] - ND521 - 8:18pm 1/7/26
      - There will a homicide investigation by Minnesota. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:32pm 1/7/26
        Yep. The ICE agent ruined his life because of a dumb, brash decision. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 9:07pm 1/7/26
        All over an ICE vehicle stuck in the snow. - conorlarkin - 9:21pm 1/7/26
    - Disobeying a police officer is not the standard to use deadly force. - conorlarkin - 8:06pm 1/7/26
      - Duh. Putting an officers life in danger while disregarding officer orders is however. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:39pm 1/8/26
    - Nope. She should have complied, but the agent overreacted and the video proves it. - Domer From Hell - 5:31pm 1/7/26
      - Saw the video linked by Chris. Agent drew firearm the moment the car started advancing toward him. [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 11:21pm 1/7/26
      - Yup [NT] - ND521 - 7:49pm 1/7/26
      - Why shouldn't ICE be there? - NedoftheHill - 7:40pm 1/7/26
        Because it’s an obvious power play and fuck you to Walz… - Domer From Hell - 7:49pm 1/7/26
        ICE is in a lot of cities in states not governed by Walz. I would think they could go anywhere. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:10pm 1/7/26
        Not 2,000 of them [NT] - Domer From Hell - 12:36am 1/8/26
        
        No...the city is a mess. Walz fucked himself and will use this to try to distract and rally support) - BaronVonZemo - 7:57pm 1/7/26
        Your friend is most likely a Trumper, so forgive me for not believing you or him… - Domer From Hell - 8:37pm 1/7/26
        He's a very strong libertarian, not a Trumper. But right now, lib/commies are indistinguishable from - BaronVonZemo - 10:37pm 1/7/26
        That’s a joke, right? And California is 10x greater than your welfare state. I know because … - Domer From Hell - 11:10pm 1/7/26
        Cali sucks - you ruined it. (And by you, I mean libs). Libs ruined my state also but - BaronVonZemo - 9:34am 1/8/26
      - 👍 [NT] - jimbasil - 6:50pm 1/7/26
      - This is the correct assessment - Chris94 - 5:53pm 1/7/26
        I guess they should have shot the driver in the shoulder right. Or better yet, - TampaIrish - 6:05pm 1/7/26
        FA FO. One less to deal with [NT] - ColeyO - 6:36pm 1/7/26
        Weak ass bitch speak right there [NT] - Domer From Hell - 6:55pm 1/7/26
        Libs are pissed because this is a splash of cold water - you’re actions will have consequences like - BaronVonZemo - 7:13pm 1/7/26
        It’s “”your actions…”. And you’re welcome [NT] - Domer From Hell - 9:16pm 1/7/26
        In days of yore, you would have understood that this was a typo. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:15pm 1/7/26
        Welp, if you didn’t do it so often, I’d give ya’ a pass. Just trying to help [NT] - Domer From Hell - 10:43pm 1/7/26
        
        She was a protestor? There is no evidence of that. - Chris94 - 6:08pm 1/7/26
        And now there is evidence of just that. Lol. She was trying to obstruct federal agents. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:43pm 1/7/26
        To me that’s not a “protestor,” but OK. But then the masked men gunned her down. [LINK] - Chris94 - 7:07pm 1/7/26
        Should antifa be required to unmask? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:41pm 1/7/26
        
        Oh my god. Now “the masked men”. They are masked because these asshole was doxxing them. - TampaIrish - 7:13pm 1/7/26
        Indeed. Dems want to let MS-13 know where ICE agents families live. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:31pm 1/7/26
        
        No, I’m pretty sure she was acting like an asshole - Chris94 - 7:15pm 1/7/26
        She put herself in that situation by trying to prevent ICE from doing their job. She wasn’t some [LINK] - TampaIrish - 7:18pm 1/7/26
        He shot her in the face and then took a half-step to his right - Chris94 - 7:40pm 1/7/26
        He had no idea if the TDSer was going to gun it. It's a massive Honda Pilot very close and coming - BaronVonZemo - 7:53pm 1/7/26
        
        “Took a half step to the right”. So in other words, if he didn’t move, the “masked man” would have - TampaIrish - 7:52pm 1/7/26
        He claimed a while ago that nobody was in front of the SUV. His argument morphs around each new - BaronVonZemo - 7:55pm 1/7/26
        Well, the story, like science, changes. It has to fit the narrative. [NT] - TampaIrish - 8:04pm 1/7/26
        
        Kristi Noem conforms it. [LINK] - TampaIrish - 6:57pm 1/7/26
        
        And in your small mind, deadly force was warranted. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 6:54pm 1/7/26
        Agent was right in front of suv as she disobeyed and lurched out. Now we also know her mindset - BaronVonZemo - 7:04pm 1/7/26
        You obviously didn’t watch the video… - Domer From Hell - 7:14pm 1/7/26
        Yes, but she gunned it when the tires were pointed at the officer. See my comments here... [NT] [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 11:26pm 1/7/26
        
        The talking points are out. [NT] [LINK] - TampaIrish - 6:59pm 1/7/26
        Yeah, just so you know, Noem has no credibility… - Domer From Hell - 7:04pm 1/7/26
        She turned right after being shot. We won’t know what she would have done. But the agent is not - BaronVonZemo - 7:10pm 1/7/26
        You’re so full of shit. As she turns left, the pussy ass agent opened up on her… - Domer From Hell - 7:16pm 1/7/26
        Diff camera view from building shows her Honda Pilot made contact w agent as he fired. Given that + - BaronVonZemo - 7:35pm 1/7/26
        The slow motion video Irish93 posted below shows otherwise… - Domer From Hell - 7:40pm 1/7/26
        Sigh. Do you think that she was right in what she did? Let's at least get this clearly understood. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:46pm 1/7/26
        No, she should have complied, but the use of deadly force was not warranted from… - Domer From Hell - 7:51pm 1/7/26
        So, this agent's response aside, we agree that her stupid, unlawful behavior led to the situation? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:01pm 1/7/26
        She should have been arrested, not killed. The ICE agent is at fault… - Domer From Hell - 9:10pm 1/7/26
        Be that as it is ultimately determined, you have not answered the question. I do not... - BaronVonZemo - 10:30pm 1/7/26
        She was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Again… - Domer From Hell - 10:47pm 1/7/26
        Clearly not murder legally. Perhaps you meant it was a homicide or killing. - NedoftheHill - 11:54am 1/8/26
        
        I kinda like her. You will never see any other side of this because you hate Trump. ICE has - TampaIrish - 7:10pm 1/7/26
        I don’t like her because she’s a dog killing twat… - Domer From Hell - 7:18pm 1/7/26
        I know that. You’re clouded by Trump hatred, I get it. I do agree about the dog though. - TampaIrish - 7:22pm 1/7/26
        
        Give it an hour. And of course she was a protester. You think - TampaIrish - 6:22pm 1/7/26
        
        Her car was sideways blocking them. You think that was a coincidence? [NT] - PaND - 6:17pm 1/7/26
        She’s been identified. [LINK] - TampaIrish - 6:28pm 1/7/26
        I just don’t understand the mindset of these people. - PaND - 6:30pm 1/7/26
      - "Nope", everyone doesn't need to obey the law!? What did you mean by "No Kings"? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:42pm 1/7/26
- Stupid analogy reference #2 [NT] - Chris94 - 5:12pm 1/7/26
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