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Read the case on which this guidance is based.

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4779 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:08 pm on Jan 8, 2026
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It is an objective standard, not 20-20 hindsight.

Here is the syllabus:

Syllabus
Petitioner Graham, a diabetic, asked his friend, Berry, to drive him to a convenience store to purchase orange juice to counteract the onset of an insulin reaction. Upon entering the store and seeing the number of people ahead of him, Graham hurried out and asked Berry to drive him to a friend's house instead. Respondent Connor, a city police officer, became suspicious after seeing Graham hastily enter and leave the store, followed Berry's car, and made an investigative stop, ordering the pair to wait while he found out what had happened in the store. Respondent backup police officers arrived on the scene, handcuffed Graham, and ignored or rebuffed attempts to explain and treat Graham's condition. During the encounter, Graham sustained multiple injuries. He was released when Conner learned that nothing had happened in the store. Graham filed suit in the District Court under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 against respondents, alleging that they had used excessive force in making the stop, in violation of "rights secured to him under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and 42 U.S.C. § 1983." The District Court granted respondents' motion for a directed verdict at the close of Graham's evidence, applying a four-factor test for determining when excessive use of force gives rise to a § 1983 cause of action, which inquires, inter alia, whether the force was applied in a good faith effort to maintain and restore discipline or maliciously and sadistically for the very purpose of causing harm. Johnson v. Glick, 481 F.2d 1028. The Court of Appeals affirmed, endorsing this test as generally applicable to all claims of constitutionally excessive force brought against government officials, rejecting Graham's argument that it was error to require him to prove that the allegedly excessive force was applied maliciously and sadistically to cause harm, and holding that a reasonable jury applying the Johnson v. Glick test to his evidence could not find that the force applied was constitutionally excessive.
Held: All claims that law enforcement officials have used excessive force -- deadly or not -- in the course of an arrest, investigatory stop, or other "seizure" of a free citizen are properly analyzed under the Fourth Amendment's "objective reasonableness" standard, rather than under a substantive due process standard. Pp. 490 U. S. 392-399.
(a) The notion that all excessive force claims brought under § 1983 are governed by a single generic standard is rejected. Instead, courts must identify the specific constitutional right allegedly infringed by the challenged application of force, and then judge the claim by reference to the specific constitutional standard which governs that right. Pp. 490 U. S. 393-394.
(b) Claims that law enforcement officials have used excessive force in the course of an arrest, investigatory stop, or other "seizure" of a free citizen are most properly characterized as invoking the protections of the Fourth Amendment, which guarantees citizens the right "to be secure in their persons . . . against unreasonable seizures," and must be judged by reference to the Fourth Amendment's "reasonableness" standard. Pp. 490 U. S. 394-395.
(c) The Fourth Amendment "reasonableness" inquiry is whether the officers' actions are "objectively reasonable" in light of the facts and circumstances confronting them, without regard to their underlying intent or motivation. The "reasonableness" of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, and its calculus must embody an allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second decisions about the amount of force necessary in a particular situation. Pp. 490 U. S. 396-397.
(d) The Johnson v. Glick test applied by the courts below is incompatible with a proper Fourth Amendment analysis. The suggestion that the test's "malicious and sadistic" inquiry is merely another way of describing conduct that is objectively unreasonable under the circumstances is rejected. Also rejected is the conclusion that, because individual officers' subjective motivations are of central importance in deciding whether force used against a convicted prisoner violates the Eighth Amendment, it cannot be reversible error to inquire into them in deciding whether force used against a suspect or arrestee violates the Fourth Amendment. The Eighth Amendment terms "cruel" and "punishment" clearly suggest some inquiry into subjective state of mind, whereas the Fourth Amendment term "unreasonable" does not. Moreover, the less protective Eighth Amendment standard applies only after the State has complied with the constitutional guarantees traditionally associated with criminal prosecutions. Pp. 490 U. S. 397-399.
827 F.2d 945, vacated and remanded.


Link: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/490/386/#tab-opinion-1957951

Replies to: "Read the case on which this guidance is based."

  • For the slow people — use of deadly force — [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:46pm 1/8/26 (42) [View All]
    • If these MAGA cultists celebrate January 6 and delude themselves - irishscooter - 10:16am 1/9/26
      • No need to identify yourself as one of conor's slow people. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:45am 1/9/26
    • All of your posts are for the slow people. Proclaiming it is unnecessary [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:31am 1/9/26
    • They want another George Floyd riot in Minneapolis very badly. - MAS - 7:42am 1/9/26
      • Excellent post. Required reading. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:33am 1/9/26
      • Maybe not that but the distraction certainly helps Tampon Tim [NT] - LanceManion - 8:10am 1/9/26
      • “They” being the Trump Administration of course. - conorlarkin - 8:04am 1/9/26
        • Then why are Dem leaders fueling it? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:34am 1/9/26
        • This is absolutely right. [NT] - Chris94 - 8:07am 1/9/26
      • “They.” They are so evil! [NT] - Chris94 - 8:03am 1/9/26
        • Certainly being influenced by it. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:49am 1/9/26
    • "1. Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect"...from your link [NT] - TyroneIrish - 10:29pm 1/8/26
      • "may use deadly force [when] officer has reasonable belief [of] imminent danger of serious injury." [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:50am 1/9/26
      • The bullet hole in the windshield debunks the “fleeing suspect” narrative. [NT] - LanceManion - 7:32am 1/9/26
        • The two shots through the side window debunk the “imminent danger” narrative. [NT] - Chris94 - 9:08am 1/9/26
          • Actually, they don't. - NedoftheHill - 10:55am 1/9/26
      • Read the case on which this guidance is based. [LINK] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 11:08pm 1/8/26
        • You bring a tremendous amount of level-headedness to this discussion. Thank you. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:51am 1/9/26
        • If a suspect, which Ms. Good was not...shouldn't be shot for fleeing...which she wasn't then what - TyroneIrish - 12:37am 1/9/26
      • Prevention of escape is not what is being alleged. Maybe you are talking about something else? - NedoftheHill - 10:44pm 1/8/26
        • Oh ….it was self defense, right Ned? - conorlarkin - 7:22am 1/9/26
          • No mention of subjective intent of person putting the officer in fear of injury. - NedoftheHill - 10:51am 1/9/26
        • Read what I posted just a moment ago...Renee Good was simply a citizen blocking traffic...was told - TyroneIrish - 12:52am 1/9/26
          • You aren't paying attention to the facts & the law, so you just pound the table. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:01am 1/9/26
            • That's what he does [NT] - ColeyO - 12:48pm 1/9/26
            • He's manufacturing "facts" and ignoring the law, so...par for the course... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:27pm 1/9/26
    • It’s sorta amazing that so many people are cool with this woman getting killed - Chris94 - 9:49pm 1/8/26
      • Ok, no. But not surprised. These unhinged Karens who think they are doing God’s work are fools. - LanceManion - 7:31am 1/9/26
      • False statement. Inciteful not insightful. [NT] - Hensou - 7:20am 1/9/26
      • A Martyr for nothing to see here. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 1:15am 1/9/26
      • It’s not cool. It is sad. She made bad choices - was an anti govt activist warrior [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 10:42pm 1/8/26
        • Who is Ashli Babbitt? [NT] - conorlarkin - 1:33am 1/9/26
          • So you agree. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:47am 1/9/26
            • Ashli Babbitt was a righteous use of deadly force. Shooting Ms. Good was not. [NT] - conorlarkin - 2:46pm 1/9/26
            • It appears you don't quite get the reference. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:19am 1/9/26
              • It appears you don't understand the point of his post. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:59am 1/9/26
                • And you're another one who missed it - but go ahead, tell us all about Ashli Babbitt and her demise. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:15pm 1/9/26
      • Just imagine if she were an undocumented Somali immigrant. - conorlarkin - 9:59pm 1/8/26
        • Whatabout Somali's? Imagine if she were an unarmed conservative gunned down by the police. - NedoftheHill - 10:51pm 1/8/26
        • Millionaires don’t do these types of things. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:49pm 1/8/26

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