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I did not consider my statement as "extolling myself." I was merely describing my position.

Author: NedoftheHill (45972 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)
Posted at 11:36 pm on Jan 20, 2026
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I know you have reservations that prevent you from believing 100% of Church Doctrine...just for example, the doctrinal position regarding abortion. I wasn't being prideful; I was merely accurately describing my theological position (and yours). I have accepted all that the Church teaches (an act of will/choice), not just the parts that I like, or the parts which agree with my political beliefs. I guess I understand how you might have thought that was prideful, but I do not think of that as something to brag about. I was just trying to demonstrate that I do not fear your "bookmark," and I wondered why you thought it was somehow significant. You obviously hope to catch me disagreeing with the doctrine of the Church. If you do, it would be a cause for introspection on my part, not an opportunity to justify my disagreement. You opt for the latter (justifying your disagreement) when discussing abortion...again, just a statement of fact. When the Catechism points out that intentional abortion is always evil, you seek to find ways to get around that doctrine; you do not think about changing your position to bring it in line with teaching...and yet you try to claim your arguments are Catholic, which is a cause for scandal (in the theological, not secular sense of the term). If I am wrong on this point, feel free to say so.

The decision to allow all priests to handle absolution for abortion (which I did not know about) is more of a matter of discipline (practice) rather than doctrine (belief), and as such, it can be changed over time by the Church. I'm fine with that. The gravely sinful nature of abortion in the abstract, however, is a matter of doctrine, which is not changeable over time, and individual pronouncements by even a pope which purport to change that doctrine (or any doctrine) have no effect, notwithstanding the fact that the pope is part of the Magisterium...he is not all of the Magisterium. We can discuss whether his role is magnified when he speaks "ex cathedra" or "from the chair of St. Peter," but that has not happened with regard to the issues you seek to change about Church Doctrine.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: "I did not consider my statement as "extolling myself." I was merely describing my position."

  • Looks like the financial markets just love Trump's nonsense re Greenland. - conorlarkin - 4:12pm 1/20/26 (32) [View All]
    • Do you think "troops will die in battle" because of Trump's desire for Greenland? - NedoftheHill - 6:54pm 1/20/26
      • Any prediction on how DJT walks back all his inflammatory rhetoric re Greenland Takeover? - TyroneIrish - 9:48pm 1/20/26
        • Didn't read. I don't have any problem with priests absolving abortion in confession. - NedoftheHill - 10:21pm 1/20/26
          • Interesting...I read your post extolling yourself, while attempting to speak ill of me on this issue [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:40pm 1/20/26
            • I did not consider my statement as "extolling myself." I was merely describing my position. - NedoftheHill - 11:36pm 1/20/26
              • I'm back... - TyroneIrish - 10:47pm 1/21/26
              • i'll get back to you tomorrow...PM...but thanks for replying...more than some others here would do.. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:44am 1/21/26
        • It appears my prediction was deleted. Unfortunate. So, I guess not. Don't feel like retyping it. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:18pm 1/20/26
          • Try again…if that doesn’t work, B-Mail me [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:24pm 1/20/26
            • I doubt my post was deleted for its content. Perhaps it depended upon another deleted post. - NedoftheHill - 11:43pm 1/20/26
      • Would you support a US invasion of Greenland? [NT] - ND521 - 7:47pm 1/20/26
        • Non-responsive. Do you think "troops will die in battle." Do you believe Trump would invade? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:07pm 1/20/26
        • We already have military base in Greenland. - iairishcheeks - 7:58pm 1/20/26
          • Non-responsive. Would you support a US invasion of Greenland? [NT] - ND521 - 8:01pm 1/20/26
            • How do you invade a country where you have the only military base? - iairishcheeks - 9:08pm 1/20/26
            • Well, you support an invasion of the US. It would seem you have no standing here. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:04pm 1/20/26
              • Heh. Good point. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:08pm 1/20/26
                • Btw, notice how Trump has EU putting troops on Greenland after yrs of them scoffing at requests - BaronVonZemo - 11:58pm 1/20/26
    • Sadly there are many like baron who support every inane thing that falls out of his mouth. - jimbasil - 4:47pm 1/20/26
      • Sadly there are people like you who criticize everything that Trump does. - Hensou - 5:11pm 1/20/26
    • "Chickens Coming Home To Roost"...now with WS being impacted, perhaps the GOP will start - TyroneIrish - 4:41pm 1/20/26
    • Perfect buying opportunity. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:40pm 1/20/26
    • Call Henny Penny and spread the news. [NT] - Hensou - 4:35pm 1/20/26
    • Whatever you say chicken little. Pass up on another buying opportunity. [NT] - LanceManion - 4:28pm 1/20/26
      • None of this needed to happen... - TyroneIrish - 4:50pm 1/20/26
        • Sure he did. [NT] - LanceManion - 5:47pm 1/20/26
          • Any substance to your objection? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:21pm 1/20/26
    • I don't think anyone else in this whole country thinks this is a good idea - Chris94 - 4:18pm 1/20/26

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