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Ned, you're avoiding the very real "Extenuating Circumstances" and "Vicissitudes" of Human Life that

Author: TyroneIrish (23385 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 2:11 pm on Jan 24, 2026
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Popes and the Magisterium have recognized throughout RCC history...again, read the linked "Where Peter Is" article...especially the last paragraph regarding the issue of fetal "Personhood"...

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"What does all this mean? Well, for one thing, it is clear that the Magisterium has acknowledged on multiple occasions that there is a debate about personhood. It is also clear that the Church has not always considered the life of a human person to begin at conception. More recently, the Church has pushed back against the idea that "delayed personhood" is relevant to its position on the sanctity of human life from the moment of conception. It has taught instead that life, from the moment of conception should be treated and respected as a human person. And in this Pope Francis has always been in line with Catholic Tradition."
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I fully support this summary...we "Should" always Treat and Respect...from conception...the fetus "AS" a person...without the definitive statement it "IS" a person...since there is no RCC Theology that defines the outcomes of 'Failure to Implant'...or 'Miscarriage'...which occur in the Majority of conceptions...nor are there secular/governmental rights firmly established for ALL who live in this nation.

With that said, let's hear what you have to say about "Extenuating Circumstances" that certainly pertain to Unwanted Pregnancies...not unlike "EC's" that come up in determining allowable killings in "Just Wars".


Link: https://wherepeteris.com/pope-francis-and-the-personhood-debate/

Replies to: "Ned, you're avoiding the very real "Extenuating Circumstances" and "Vicissitudes" of Human Life that"

  • Looks like the financial markets just love Trump's nonsense re Greenland. - conorlarkin - 4:12pm 1/20/26 (39) [View All]
    • Do you think "troops will die in battle" because of Trump's desire for Greenland? - NedoftheHill - 6:54pm 1/20/26
      • Any prediction on how DJT walks back all his inflammatory rhetoric re Greenland Takeover? - TyroneIrish - 9:48pm 1/20/26
        • Didn't read. I don't have any problem with priests absolving abortion in confession. - NedoftheHill - 10:21pm 1/20/26
          • Interesting...I read your post extolling yourself, while attempting to speak ill of me on this issue [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:40pm 1/20/26
            • I did not consider my statement as "extolling myself." I was merely describing my position. - NedoftheHill - 11:36pm 1/20/26
              • I'm back... - TyroneIrish - 10:47pm 1/21/26
                • Killings by soldiers in a Just War are not sinful, absent other factors. - NedoftheHill - 2:50pm 1/22/26
                  • More on the relationship of "Just Wars" and Abortion... - TyroneIrish - 6:26pm 1/23/26
                    • There is no such relationship. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:38am 1/24/26
                      • A simple denial w/o substantive support won’t cut it. Just Wars and the consequent ending of human - TyroneIrish - 12:22pm 1/24/26
                  • Consider that the "Just War" section of the RCC Catechism is not a 'Theory'...it is the Church's - TyroneIrish - 3:40pm 1/22/26
                    • It is not applicable to abortion. I notice you stay away from the Church's guidance on abortion. - NedoftheHill - 6:42am 1/24/26
                      • Ned, you're avoiding the very real "Extenuating Circumstances" and "Vicissitudes" of Human Life that [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:11pm 1/24/26
              • i'll get back to you tomorrow...PM...but thanks for replying...more than some others here would do.. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:44am 1/21/26
        • It appears my prediction was deleted. Unfortunate. So, I guess not. Don't feel like retyping it. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:18pm 1/20/26
          • Try again…if that doesn’t work, B-Mail me [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:24pm 1/20/26
            • I doubt my post was deleted for its content. Perhaps it depended upon another deleted post. - NedoftheHill - 11:43pm 1/20/26
      • Would you support a US invasion of Greenland? [NT] - ND521 - 7:47pm 1/20/26
        • Non-responsive. Do you think "troops will die in battle." Do you believe Trump would invade? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:07pm 1/20/26
        • We already have military base in Greenland. - iairishcheeks - 7:58pm 1/20/26
          • Non-responsive. Would you support a US invasion of Greenland? [NT] - ND521 - 8:01pm 1/20/26
            • How do you invade a country where you have the only military base? - iairishcheeks - 9:08pm 1/20/26
            • Well, you support an invasion of the US. It would seem you have no standing here. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:04pm 1/20/26
              • Heh. Good point. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:08pm 1/20/26
                • Btw, notice how Trump has EU putting troops on Greenland after yrs of them scoffing at requests - BaronVonZemo - 11:58pm 1/20/26
    • Sadly there are many like baron who support every inane thing that falls out of his mouth. - jimbasil - 4:47pm 1/20/26
      • Sadly there are people like you who criticize everything that Trump does. - Hensou - 5:11pm 1/20/26
    • "Chickens Coming Home To Roost"...now with WS being impacted, perhaps the GOP will start - TyroneIrish - 4:41pm 1/20/26
    • Perfect buying opportunity. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:40pm 1/20/26
    • Call Henny Penny and spread the news. [NT] - Hensou - 4:35pm 1/20/26
    • Whatever you say chicken little. Pass up on another buying opportunity. [NT] - LanceManion - 4:28pm 1/20/26
      • None of this needed to happen... - TyroneIrish - 4:50pm 1/20/26
        • Sure he did. [NT] - LanceManion - 5:47pm 1/20/26
          • Any substance to your objection? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 11:21pm 1/20/26
    • I don't think anyone else in this whole country thinks this is a good idea - Chris94 - 4:18pm 1/20/26

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