H W Bush had it correct in his chicken Kiev speech.

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H W Bush had it correct in his chicken Kiev speech.

Author: Frank L (63839 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:05 pm on Apr 18, 2016

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We would have been better off without some of the expansion, especially in the Baltics,

But it's done and the organization has kept the peace for a long time. It would be crazy to jettison it and add yet another power vacuum to an already uncertain world.

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Replies to: "H W Bush had it correct in his chicken Kiev speech."

- Eli - 2:19pm 4/17/16 (36) [View All]
- I disagree. They seem quite useful..... [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 11:58pm 4/17/16
- I agree somewhat but that isn't the biggest problem with NATO. The NATO mission should be........... - NDinTN - 9:38pm 4/17/16
  - Huh, CC2, Chris, TN ad me. What an interesting group made by Trump, let me say it for Frank L [NT] - Eli - 1:51am 4/18/16
- I generally agree, but for different reasons - Chris94 - 8:21pm 4/17/16
  - H W Bush had it correct in his chicken Kiev speech. - Frank L - 1:05pm 4/18/16
    - I think President Cruz would expand to cover Ukraine - Chris94 - 6:28pm 4/18/16
      - Another example of why I'd much rather have President Trump than President Cruz. - ND_in_ATL - 8:25pm 4/18/16
        Trump is too much of a wild card - Chris94 - 8:32pm 4/18/16
        Obama accepted teaching? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:39am 4/21/16
  - US directed NATO strikes in Libya proved for good it needs to be disbanded - CC72 - 9:23pm 4/17/16
- Compared to the cost of out of control entitlements for which he proposes no reform, the costs - Frank L - 7:31pm 4/17/16
  - A former English foreign minister once said that NATO had three roles.... - Chris94 - 5:25pm 4/18/16
    - I have to confess, NATO expansion always made me uncomfortable. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:08pm 4/18/16
    - All three still have relevance and are included in my four. - Frank L - 5:35pm 4/18/16
      - And yet, without the Baltic expansion, one or two of those nations might not be there now. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:10pm 4/18/16
        Gimme a break. NATO expanded there in 2004. - Chris94 - 6:27pm 4/18/16
        On the flip side, NATO involvement with a member state may ensure a peaceful resolution. - Frank L - 10:08am 4/19/16
        
        2004 is a long time ago on this issue. - NedoftheHill - 8:59pm 4/18/16
        
        Have you ever met anyone from the Balkan region? - iairishcheeks - 7:06pm 4/18/16
        I've been to Eastern Europe recently. Many there really do live in fear of Russia. - NedoftheHill - 8:55pm 4/18/16
        
        You mean the Baltics? - Chris94 - 8:31pm 4/18/16
        Albania, that's Balkan, no? - iairishcheeks - 8:43pm 4/18/16
        It sure is - Chris94 - 9:05pm 4/18/16
      - In fact his three are my first three. [NT] - Frank L - 5:36pm 4/18/16
  - We know NATO is a DEFENSE pact made against the rising communism. Where did you get your 4 reasons? [LINK] - Eli - 2:39am 4/18/16
    - Irrelevant where I got them, you can't refute that they are true. - Frank L - 12:59pm 4/18/16
  - I assume his plan for entitlement spending is to make poor people pay for it. - ND_in_ATL - 7:53pm 4/17/16
- Genius... you're almost scholarly - jimbasil - 7:31pm 4/17/16
  - Just "almost". But you're already a scholar, specialized in legacy of Bush presidency [NT] - Eli - 2:20am 4/18/16
    - Yours and Trump's grasp on the compexities of world issues astounds. - jimbasil - 2:49am 4/18/16
      - Obviously my post is not for low-info readers like you. - Eli - 7:49pm 4/19/16
- Trump's, and your, view is incredibly shortsighted. - LanceHarbor - 6:06pm 4/17/16
  - NATO helps achieve that? You are delusional - CC72 - 9:24pm 4/17/16
    - how can I argue with such a well written post [NT] - LanceHarbor - 9:29pm 4/17/16
  - Your last sentence is 100% correct. - ND_in_ATL - 7:00pm 4/17/16
- I agree with Trump in general on this issue - CC72 - 2:56pm 4/17/16