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I don’t fault Vance re the Islamabad discourse, given his marching orders from Trump.

Author: conorlarkin  (22544 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:02 pm on Apr 12, 2026
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Even though I regard Vance as dishonorable on many fronts, I believe he could shepherd a long term agreement if left to negotiate on his own terms. And I would prefer Vance to Rubio or Kush or the other pretender.

Trump set Vance up for failure. The negotiations had zero chance with US demands for Iran to capitulate on everything.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

Replies to: “I don’t fault Vance re the Islamabad discourse, given his marching orders from Trump.”

  • Vance having a bad week. Backs a loser in Hungary and his diplomacy tanks [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:29pm 4/12/26 (7) [View All]
    • "Death to America" for almost 50 yrs. Slaughter of their own people. - ELP - 11:37pm 4/12/26
      • People who are willing to die for a cause are very difficult to beat or even negotiate with. - THEISMANCARR - 3:28am 4/13/26
        • Persians are not suicidal - Chris94 - 3:38am 4/13/26
    • I don’t fault Vance re the Islamabad discourse, given his marching orders from Trump. - conorlarkin - 10:02pm 4/12/26
    • Sometimes the best move in a negotiation is to walk away. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:44pm 4/12/26
      • Sometimes the best play is to cut one’s losses after an unforced clusterf*ck. - conorlarkin - 10:26pm 4/12/26
        • I didn't defend Trump. I just discredited a potentially false impression. - NedoftheHill - 1:04am 4/13/26

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