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Question for Ty on Catholic theology and a "just war"

Author: MarkHarman  (7825 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:16 am on Apr 19, 2026
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Is it your interpretation that the Catholic Church believes a country cannot morally engage in war unless it is attacked first?

And by "attacked first," does that mean militarily by conventional understanding, or do these count?:

Nov 1979–Jan 1981: Tehran Hostage Crisis: Iranian students seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran, taking 66 Americans hostage for 444 days
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Apr 1983: Beirut Embassy Bombing: An Iran-backed group conducted a suicide bombing at the U.S. embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans.

Oct 1983: Beirut Barracks Bombing: Hezbollah terrorists blew up the Marine compound in Beirut, killing 241 U.S. military personnel.

1984–1991: Lebanon Hostage Crisis: Iran-backed Hezbollah systematically kidnapped U.S. personnel, including killing CIA station chief William Buckley.

1985: TWA Flight 847 Hijacking: Hezbollah militants hijacked a U.S. flight, killing a U.S. Navy diver.

1996: Khobar Towers Bombing: Iran-backed Hezbollah Al-Hijaz bombed a U.S. housing complex in Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. Airmen.

2003–2011: Iraq War Proxy Attacks: Iran's Quds Force provided weapons and training to insurgents, killing over 600 U.S. service members, says the FDD report.

Jan 2020: Ballistic Missile Attack: Following the death of Qasem Soleimani, Iran launched missiles at Ain al-Asad Air Base in Iraq, causing traumatic brain injuries to over 100 U.S. troops.

Mar 2023: Syria Drone Strike: An Iranian drone killed an American contractor and wounded five U.S. troops in Syria.

Jan 2024: Jordan Base Attack: Kata'ib Hezbollah launched a drone strike on a U.S. base in Jordan (Tower 22), killing three American soldiers.

2023–2024: Regional Attacks: Between Oct 2023 and Nov 2024, Iranian proxies conducted over 180 attacks against U.S. forces in the Middle East, wounding over 180 personnel.


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Replies to: “Question for Ty on Catholic theology and a "just war"”

  • Question for Ty on Catholic theology and a "just war" - MarkHarman - 4:16am 4/19/26 (13) [View All]
    • Tyrone thinks Just War Theory is a justification for abortion. - NedoftheHill - 1:34am 4/20/26
      • Yep. - TakethetrainKnute - 11:04am 4/20/26
        • Thanks for the 'Left Handed Compliment'...must be hard on you accepting a singular "Boomer" - TyroneIrish - 9:34pm 4/20/26
      • We'll return to that issue shortly...good to hear that you're ready to re-engage. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 6:41am 4/20/26
    • It’s much more complicated than that - Chris94 - 11:17pm 4/19/26
      • Oh, I think this war is a terrible idea. - MarkHarman - 3:07am 4/21/26
    • The question is whose side are you on Mark, the Pope or Vance? I'm with Leo. [NT] - ND521 - 6:17pm 4/19/26
    • Take some time to read the RCC Catechism section (2308) dealing with Just Wars while also noting [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 5:36pm 4/19/26
      • A key principle of Catholic Just War Theory is the actions of past US presidents. Makes sense. - NedoftheHill - 1:34am 4/20/26
        • "When you get infinite threats, like possible use of nuclear weapons,.."...not so "Infinite" that a - TyroneIrish - 6:39am 4/20/26
        • He’s a dissembler. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 3:38am 4/20/26
    • FWIW, the "just war"doctrine is from the Augustinians — Pope Leo’s Order. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 1:53pm 4/19/26

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