Not if Iran gets a nuke and uses it.

Author: iairishcheeks (29517 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Apr 21, 2026

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This is the problem with trying to make a moral argument without knowing the consequences of the actions. If there's a way to liberate Iran without a long drawn out war, that would be the best outcome. And would also be the highest moral goal.

Replies to: “Not if Iran gets a nuke and uses it.”

Bishop Robert Barron on the Just War doctrine - MarkHarman - 3:06pm 4/21/26 (20) [View All]
- Great conversation to have cuz it’s all up for interpretation and “conversation” [NT] - Frankx - 5:23pm 4/21/26
  - There is no interpretation that can make the attacks on Iran "just" [NT] - Chris94 - 5:26pm 4/21/26
    - I think Jesus would ignore human rights abuses to keep oil prices low. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:13pm 4/21/26
      - I guess Jesus would launch a war that keeps that regime in place in your world - Chris94 - 7:27pm 4/21/26
        
        Do you think Jesus would launch even a just war? That's a weird thing to think about. - NedoftheHill - 10:43pm 4/21/26
        
        There is no moral justification in allowing that regime to continue. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:50pm 4/21/26
        
        A regime-change war would be a greater evil - Chris94 - 8:44pm 4/21/26
        
        Not if Iran gets a nuke and uses it. - iairishcheeks - 9:40pm 4/21/26
- "it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust." - Chris94 - 4:02pm 4/21/26
  - Bishop Barron is an odd duck...he'll criticize Trump for calling Pope Leo's comments - TyroneIrish - 5:42pm 4/21/26
    - Trump: the Pope is "weak on nuclear weapons" - Chris94 - 5:45pm 4/21/26
  - Name the last war that the Catholic Church declared was a just one under Just War Theory. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:29pm 4/21/26
    - Bibi and Donald's War certainly doesn't pass muster...the RCC's Just War guidance emphasizes - TyroneIrish - 6:32pm 4/21/26
      - Chris wasn't answering because he knew he'd already lost the point. - NedoftheHill - 8:26pm 4/21/26
        
        The RCC has provided a policy and checklist…Trump’s aggression doesn’t check any of the boxes… - TyroneIrish - 11:18pm 4/21/26
        
        So he sent his JV to answer instead [NT] - ColeyO - 10:41pm 4/21/26
        
        Heh. Indeed. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:54pm 4/21/26
- “Ginned up…”? Maybe dwelled upon but hardly ginned up. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:49pm 4/21/26
  - Don Henley's song Dirty Laundry is more apt today than in 1984 [NT] - MarkHarman - 5:41pm 4/21/26
    - Don Henley is much more likely to be thinking of FOX 'News' than the NYT and WaPo... - TyroneIrish - 6:39pm 4/21/26

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