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Do you think Jesus would launch even a just war? That's a weird thing to think about.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46512 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 10:43 pm on Apr 21, 2026
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There are all kinds of weird moral discussions that are prompted when you start imagining Jesus as the leader of a nation (something the Devil tempted him with, but he actively avoided) ... or even imagining Jesus as a lobbyist (one of the favorite ways for Democrats to imagine Jesus, as they pretend that Jesus was calling for government action instead of for private charity, for example). Generally speaking, Jesus never commented on government action, other than to say let it be. The Church that he established does, though, but although the Church has called for war in the past to halt the advance of Islam, it generally does not declare wars to be just or not under the Just War Theory of morality.

One of your favorite tactics is to argue that there is "no evidence" for something, or "no arguments can be made" for something, when every one can see that there is often at least "some evidence" when you say there is none (even if you could argue that the evidence is weak) ... or even when the opposing side can easily make "some arguments" against your position. Your personal beliefs (usually biased) about the strength of particular arguments does not mean those arguments do not exist at all. Your tactics in this regard basically come down to the logical fallacy of arguing from authority: "I am an expert, and I say there are no arguments, so there are none." But, everyone sees you being wrong all the time. It would be more persuasive if you actually engaged in discussion, instead of dismissing discussion you deem not worthy of your time...more persuasive, that is, than merely arguing from authority.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: “Do you think Jesus would launch even a just war? That's a weird thing to think about.”

  • Bishop Robert Barron on the Just War doctrine - MarkHarman - 3:06pm 4/21/26 (21) [View All]
    • Great conversation to have cuz it’s all up for interpretation and “conversation” [NT] - Frankx - 5:23pm 4/21/26
      • There is no interpretation that can make the attacks on Iran "just" [NT] - Chris94 - 5:26pm 4/21/26
        • I think Jesus would ignore human rights abuses to keep oil prices low. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:13pm 4/21/26
          • I guess Jesus would launch a war that keeps that regime in place in your world - Chris94 - 7:27pm 4/21/26
            • Do you think Jesus would launch even a just war? That's a weird thing to think about. - NedoftheHill - 10:43pm 4/21/26
            • There is no moral justification in allowing that regime to continue. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:50pm 4/21/26
              • A regime-change war would be a greater evil - Chris94 - 8:44pm 4/21/26
                • Not if Iran gets a nuke and uses it. - iairishcheeks - 9:40pm 4/21/26
                  • Once DJT listened to Bibi and tore up the JCPOA, this fiasco was pre-destined. - TyroneIrish - 11:42pm 4/21/26
    • "it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust." - Chris94 - 4:02pm 4/21/26
      • Bishop Barron is an odd duck...he'll criticize Trump for calling Pope Leo's comments - TyroneIrish - 5:42pm 4/21/26
        • Trump: the Pope is "weak on nuclear weapons" - Chris94 - 5:45pm 4/21/26
      • Name the last war that the Catholic Church declared was a just one under Just War Theory. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:29pm 4/21/26
        • Bibi and Donald's War certainly doesn't pass muster...the RCC's Just War guidance emphasizes - TyroneIrish - 6:32pm 4/21/26
          • Chris wasn't answering because he knew he'd already lost the point. - NedoftheHill - 8:26pm 4/21/26
            • The RCC has provided a policy and checklist…Trump’s aggression doesn’t check any of the boxes… - TyroneIrish - 11:18pm 4/21/26
            • So he sent his JV to answer instead [NT] - ColeyO - 10:41pm 4/21/26
              • Heh. Indeed. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:54pm 4/21/26
    • “Ginned up…”? Maybe dwelled upon but hardly ginned up. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:49pm 4/21/26
      • Don Henley's song Dirty Laundry is more apt today than in 1984 [NT] - MarkHarman - 5:41pm 4/21/26
        • Don Henley is much more likely to be thinking of FOX 'News' than the NYT and WaPo... - TyroneIrish - 6:39pm 4/21/26

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