You expect the Vatican to give a "Thumbs UP or DOWN" on Wars...that's not going to happen...you need

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You expect the Vatican to give a "Thumbs UP or DOWN" on Wars...that's not going to happen...you need

Author: TyroneIrish (24269 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:04 am on Apr 24, 2026

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to get out of your simplistic 'Black or White' mentality...and appreciate what's going on here. By now, especially with the overview I gave you of the RCC's reasoning for not announcing an "Imprimatur' of "Just War" to the Allies, you should also be using your noggin to try and understand that the Church is providing what might be termed "Guidelines" for engaging in massive violence...e.g. a 'Checklist' and an Advisory to use "Prudential Judgement" in any war making decisions.

The Catholic Church will always speak of seeking "Peace" and avoiding "Sinful Behavior"...BUT, it also recognizes human frailty...and seeks to guide members toward the "Least Violent" and "Least Sinful" actions...AFTER having an Informed Conscience, and using that Prudential Judgment. Not doing any of that...A'la, Donald Trump's War on Iran...it doesn't take much brain power to appreciate the 'Disappointment' of Pope Leo XIV at what he's seeing.

As the Olympic Swimmer, Donna de Varona has said on another matter..."It's Complicated, and People Don't Like Complicated". You're smart enough to figure it out...others, not so much.

Replies to: “You expect the Vatican to give a "Thumbs UP or DOWN" on Wars...that's not going to happen...you need”

Bishop Robert Barron on the Just War doctrine - MarkHarman - 3:06pm 4/21/26 (26) [View All]
- Great conversation to have cuz it’s all up for interpretation and “conversation” [NT] - Frankx - 5:23pm 4/21/26
  - There is no interpretation that can make the attacks on Iran "just" [NT] - Chris94 - 5:26pm 4/21/26
    - I think Jesus would ignore human rights abuses to keep oil prices low. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:13pm 4/21/26
      - I guess Jesus would launch a war that keeps that regime in place in your world - Chris94 - 7:27pm 4/21/26
        
        Do you think Jesus would launch even a just war? That's a weird thing to think about. - NedoftheHill - 10:43pm 4/21/26
        
        Ned= bloodlust [NT] - irishscooter - 1:31am 4/22/26
        
        There is no moral justification in allowing that regime to continue. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 7:50pm 4/21/26
        
        A regime-change war would be a greater evil - Chris94 - 8:44pm 4/21/26
        
        Not if Iran gets a nuke and uses it. - iairishcheeks - 9:40pm 4/21/26
        
        Once DJT listened to Bibi and tore up the JCPOA, this fiasco was pre-destined. - TyroneIrish - 11:42pm 4/21/26
- "it is not the role of the Church to evaluate whether a particular war is just or unjust." - Chris94 - 4:02pm 4/21/26
  - Bishop Barron is an odd duck...he'll criticize Trump for calling Pope Leo's comments - TyroneIrish - 5:42pm 4/21/26
    - Trump: the Pope is "weak on nuclear weapons" - Chris94 - 5:45pm 4/21/26
  - Name the last war that the Catholic Church declared was a just one under Just War Theory. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:29pm 4/21/26
    - Bibi and Donald's War certainly doesn't pass muster...the RCC's Just War guidance emphasizes - TyroneIrish - 6:32pm 4/21/26
      - Chris wasn't answering because he knew he'd already lost the point. - NedoftheHill - 8:26pm 4/21/26
        
        The RCC has provided a policy and checklist…Trump’s aggression doesn’t check any of the boxes… - TyroneIrish - 11:18pm 4/21/26
        
        You still haven't responded to my query. We all know why. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:39am 4/22/26
        
        Pope Francis didn't 'Take Sides' when Ukraine fought back against Russia...and even in WWII, the - TyroneIrish - 3:35am 4/22/26
        
        So, you agree with me. Why all the insults if you agree with me. You insult yourself. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:18pm 4/22/26
        
        You expect the Vatican to give a "Thumbs UP or DOWN" on Wars...that's not going to happen...you need - TyroneIrish - 4:04am 4/24/26
- “Ginned up…”? Maybe dwelled upon but hardly ginned up. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:49pm 4/21/26
  - Don Henley's song Dirty Laundry is more apt today than in 1984 [NT] - MarkHarman - 5:41pm 4/21/26
    - Don Henley is much more likely to be thinking of FOX 'News' than the NYT and WaPo... - TyroneIrish - 6:39pm 4/21/26

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