I wasn't advocating for anything, except for not misleading people regarding Church Doctrine. Please don't do that.

Frankly, you do yourself a disservice, because we all see you lying when you try to use a false version of Catholic teaching in order to get people to vote Democrat. If you continue doing that, your audience will get the impression that the only basis to support your position is lies, which just weakens your position.

If you want to discuss the secular needs or desires for legalized killing of unborn humans, feel free to start a thread. I may or may not participate, as is my right. But stop misrepresenting the teachings of the Church. When you stop lying, I may be more willing to engage fully. And after all, I don't think we need to resort to religious logic to argue against abortion. It is no more a religious issue than the prohibitions against murder generally, against burglary and stealing, assault and battery, fraud, etc. If there is a victim, then the secular authority can, and typically does, justify stepping in to protect the victim, based solely on secular reasoning. We can at least discuss and debate that. But, there is no debate regarding the Church's position on the issue.