Agreed...and wrongly. Guess we will need an Article V Amendment to get it right.

Author: NedoftheHill (46951 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 4:45 pm on Jun 30, 2026

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Actually, I see both arguments, so I had assumed it would be a 5-4 split. But Chris would say that cultists don't see nuance.

The intent was clear: birthright citizenship for slaves, but not illegals.

The language did not anticipate the cottage birth industry developing to get US citizenship.

The chances of an Article 5 Amendment to fix the language to match it to the original intent is virtually non-existent. Therefore, we will have to live in a world where some presidents defend the border, and others encourage the trafficking of children.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: “Agreed...and wrongly. Guess we will need an Article V Amendment to get it right.”

Hard to believe Trump v Barbara wasn't 9-0 re birthright citizenship. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 4:28pm 6/30/26 (21) [View All]
- Conor: honest question re Alito's security concerns - NedoftheHill - 8:14pm 6/30/26
- Agreed...and wrongly. Guess we will need an Article V Amendment to get it right. - NedoftheHill - 4:45pm 6/30/26
  - It was not a close legal issue, Ned. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 6:02pm 6/30/26
    - It was not a 9-0 ruling, as you admit. Now you are just posturing. - NedoftheHill - 6:34pm 6/30/26
  - Just think of it like The Hunger Games. - iairishcheeks - 5:01pm 6/30/26
  - There was no intent to ban citizenship for "illegals." There was no such thing then. [NT] - Chris94 - 4:52pm 6/30/26
    - There was no intent to extend citizenship to them. They didn't exist then, as you say. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:55pm 6/30/26
      - Atta Boy, Ned...make those kids "Stateless" with no rights whatsoever...I believe our Founders had [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:27pm 6/30/26
        
        When are you going to stop with the strawman arguments? - NedoftheHill - 7:41pm 6/30/26
        
        Attaboy, Tyrone, destroy the US by making welfare state & offering it to 8B people. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:31pm 6/30/26
        
        When are you going to stop with the "Straw Man" arguments? ;-)...8B?....Seriously?...Read the link I - TyroneIrish - 7:34pm 6/30/26
        
        We'll need fleets of street sweepers just to clean up the placentae alone... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 7:09pm 6/30/26
        
        Thank you Ned for acknowledging your agreement with the dissent was not law based. - conorlarkin - 7:08pm 6/30/26
        
        Thank you for admitting you oppose traditional constitutional scholarship. - NedoftheHill - 7:37pm 6/30/26
      - People born in America were Americans. That's the intent. That's the wording. - Chris94 - 5:16pm 6/30/26
        
        We agree on this one. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:47pm 6/30/26
        
        Nuance, 94, nuance. I can’t believe you can’t see it. [NT] - jimbasil - 5:22pm 6/30/26
        
        Indeed. Not a 9-0 decision. But you see only one side. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:35pm 6/30/26
        
        yeah, the side that says born on US soil makes you an American. You see the side - jimbasil - 9:43pm 6/30/26
  - Well, we all agree nuance is your greatest feature, to do a “ Not” joke. Nuance. [NT] - jimbasil - 4:49pm 6/30/26
- It is depressing that 4 justices could ignore the clear wording of the Constitution. - Chris94 - 4:33pm 6/30/26

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