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False claim AND faulty logic. Nice!

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63568 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:35 pm on Jul 14, 2026
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First, you deny the reality. When presented with facts, you then deny them as long as possible, and then retreat to the position that the incidents are insignificant when we all know how razor thin voting margins are such that it matters.

Second, the truly stupid claim that because you do not see an abuse (or more accurately acknowledge it), there are no need for safeguards against an abuse. As if an obvious opportunity for abuse needs no safeguards until it can be proven to occur.

This Bud’s for you, no common sense nor logic professor guy!


Replies to: “False claim AND faulty logic. Nice!”

  • Strip out proof of citizenship and other BS and make it strictly voter ID - Quest4twelve - 9:02pm 7/13/26 (47) [View All]
    • Why shouldn't proof of citizenship be required? Why have a requirement but not verify it? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:23pm 7/13/26
      • Let's not work backwards, why should it be required? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 12:10am 7/14/26
        • Because it is a requirement to vote. Your turn: Why do you think we should check voter ID's [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:15am 7/14/26
          • Again for the slow learners, you attest you're a citizen when you register. If you're not you get - Quest4twelve - 12:17am 7/14/26
            • Again: You proposed checking voter IDs. Why did you propose that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:08am 7/14/26
            • The SAVE act requires proof of citizenship when you register. You just want someone to "attest." - NedoftheHill - 1:52am 7/14/26
              • Lie you get caught. It really is that simple. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 1:55am 7/14/26
                • So, you don't know. Or, you want a system you where you can pick who votes. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:53am 7/14/26
    • You want non-citizens to vote in our elections ? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:17pm 7/13/26
      • Non-citizens do not vote in our elections. Use common sense for five seconds. - Chris94 - 10:45pm 7/13/26
        • False claim AND faulty logic. Nice! - BaronVonZemo - 12:35pm 7/14/26
        • Common sense says to eliminate it as an issue. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:54pm 7/13/26
          • Doing so would kick millions off the voting rolls. By design. - Chris94 - 11:02pm 7/13/26
            • Cheeks and Ned are not deep thinkers…by choice… [NT] [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:24pm 7/13/26
              • Caveman thinkers and Neanderthals don't like facts either. Grunt illegals vote, grunt some more [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:31pm 7/13/26
            • Great, let's help citizens who don't have a birth certificate get one. 2 birds, one stone [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:13pm 7/13/26
              • It's not hard. And, its free. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:21pm 7/13/26
                • Yeah, but what about people who don't want a birth certificate? - iairishcheeks - 11:23pm 7/13/26
      • So you all of a sudden believe that non-citizens were vote in our elections? - Quest4twelve - 9:28pm 7/13/26
        • Even if it's never happened, and it has, you need to future proof policies. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:37pm 7/13/26
          • Cheeks with the Thomas Massie, "I heard you like gay porn?" prove me wrong theory [NT] - Quest4twelve - 9:46pm 7/13/26
            • Are you on drugs? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:02pm 7/13/26
              • You want a law to prevent the extreme, extreme rare case that impacts the good more than the bad - Quest4twelve - 11:21pm 7/13/26
                • I don't know how extreme it is and neither do you, I just want to end the partisan argument. - iairishcheeks - 11:25pm 7/13/26
                  • Let's see if we can agree here. When we hear about voter fraud it's because it's caught, correct? - Quest4twelve - 11:32pm 7/13/26
                    • The only way to know is with data. - iairishcheeks - 11:43pm 7/13/26
                      • The cream always rises to the top. Geez…some people’s jobs are so easy… [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:37am 7/14/26
                        • Social Science vs Data Science. - iairishcheeks - 6:58am 7/14/26
                  • Actually we do. Volunteer to work at a polling place. - conorlarkin - 11:29pm 7/13/26
                    • How do you verify their eligibility to vote? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:31pm 7/13/26
                      • Volunteer. Every state has protocols. - conorlarkin - 11:41pm 7/13/26
                        • You are a self-appointed expert with experience, just answer the question. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:46pm 7/13/26
                          • Are you familiar with the voting legislation offered by Democrats? [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 11:51pm 7/13/26
                            • Why won't you answer the question? Fear of prosecution?!?! [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:52pm 7/13/26
                              • I did. Pick a state. For example ….. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 11:59pm 7/13/26
                                • You brought up your experience tell me how you do it. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:06am 7/14/26
                          • In FL you can go to your local SOE office or DMV. Obviously you have to provide the req'd docs. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:47pm 7/13/26
                            • Did you navigate this treacherous and burdensome labyrinth on your own? - iairishcheeks - 11:50pm 7/13/26
                      • I truly don't want to be an asshat in my response, please add specifics because it's not that - Quest4twelve - 11:36pm 7/13/26
                        • How did you register to vote in the first place? What is required to verify eligibility? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:47pm 7/13/26
                          • Ok - I see what you're doing. You feel voting should be more difficult, got it. No more need to go - Quest4twelve - 12:04am 7/14/26
                            • Actually I want it to be easier to vote, I think we should do it online. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 2:16am 7/14/26
              • That's just his dizzying intellect [NT] - irish93 - 10:27pm 7/13/26
                • Illegals have voted in our elections. [NT] - ELP - 10:58pm 7/13/26
                  • @ what volume? Did they get away with it? [NT] - Quest4twelve - 11:24pm 7/13/26
                    • "Non citizens do not vote in our elections". That's a quote from your BFF. [LINK] - ELP - 11:53pm 7/13/26
                      • I'm confused, these men were caught yes or no? This was an open/shut slam dunk situation. [NT] - Quest4twelve - 12:08am 7/14/26

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