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Great question.
Author:
Cole
(14896 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)
Posted at 1:25 pm on Sep 28, 2016
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Here is the real cause of the loss of most manufacturing jobs: technology.
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Frank L
- 10:53am 9/28/16
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You forgot globalization, a workforce that needs to re-trained for the 21st century and.........
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NDinTN
- 8:41pm 9/28/16
In manufacture, the productivity growth curve doesn't match jobs loss curve, There're other causes
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Eli
- 8:06pm 9/28/16
Of course there are, but this is the main one.
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Frank L
- 4:22pm 9/29/16
Not entirely true.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:23pm 9/28/16
Oh it's happening even over there.
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Frank L
- 3:03pm 9/28/16
110,000 workers in one factory, let that sink in.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:37pm 9/28/16
I think in the long run it may well.
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Frank L
- 3:41pm 9/28/16
True that there won't be an increase in mundane, no skill factory jobs here.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:46pm 9/28/16
Which are most of the jobs that have been lost is my point.
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Frank L
- 3:54pm 9/28/16
It is interesting that it is starting to happen in Construction.
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iairishcheeks
- 4:50pm 9/28/16
Chinese are developing 3d printed buildings. I'm sure they have a long way to go, but...wow.
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NedoftheHill
- 5:04pm 9/28/16
The Chinese build shit...so maybe it's not that far to go...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 10:35pm 9/28/16
Just read about that. I don't know, you tell me, but a lot of rich companies are going in.
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Frank L
- 4:52pm 9/28/16
Don't discount the effect of efficiency gains
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iairishcheeks
- 6:15pm 9/28/16
So why are the companies locating in other countries for robots?
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BaronVonZemo
- 1:08pm 9/28/16
Do union contracts not allow replacing workers with robots?
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NedoftheHill
- 1:44pm 9/28/16
Reductions in force are usually a big problem under the contract.
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Frank L
- 5:21pm 9/28/16
I knew you would figure out a way to blame it on Obamacare! Well done!
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Chris94
- 1:27pm 9/28/16
You knucklehead. We told you this would be the result, and now you pretend it's a blame game.
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BaronVonZemo
- 8:23pm 9/28/16
Great question.
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Cole
- 1:25pm 9/28/16
In order: 1) Union neg'd packages 2) Govt. Regulations 3) Inc. Ease of Transfer 4) Trade 5) Robots
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NedoftheHill
- 1:01pm 9/28/16
What's interesting is that it's just not manufacturing. Technology is also reducing clerical, and...
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Frank L
- 3:34pm 9/28/16
Not unions. Again, see Germany.
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Chris94
- 1:27pm 9/28/16
I didn't say "unions." I said union negotiated packages.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:35pm 9/28/16
The onerous cost of US healthcare benefits is up there & that inc cost is primarily due to Obamacare
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BaronVonZemo
- 1:10pm 9/28/16
Yes, you would add that to the list.
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Chris94
- 1:28pm 9/28/16
Yes, I would. Any simpleton could see it.
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BaronVonZemo
- 8:25pm 9/28/16
No, it's free trade
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Hank Scorpio
- 12:42pm 9/28/16
False. Even the manufacturing jobs that have stayed here have declined due to technology.
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Frank L
- 3:07pm 9/28/16
It's globalization. And other countries handle it fine.
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Chris94
- 1:26pm 9/28/16
Why do you think the US doesn't handle it well?
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NedoftheHill
- 1:54pm 9/28/16
They do things you would not like
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Chris94
- 2:57pm 9/28/16
Yeah...that doesn't make sense. You can't just create money from nothing for everyone.
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NedoftheHill
- 4:36pm 9/28/16
Yet Germany works. So apparently it is not a fantasy world.
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Chris94
- 5:12pm 9/28/16
Right, but my point is that you are looking at one variable in the equation. There are others.
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NedoftheHill
- 7:36pm 9/28/16
You are suggesting that Germany's econ performance is due to lower college enrollment?
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Chris94
- 8:24pm 9/28/16
Separate issue.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:24pm 9/28/16
The beer makes up for the soccer, sorta.
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Frank L
- 5:33pm 9/28/16
One thing I like about Germany: They don't tell their kids they have to go to college for success.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:40pm 9/28/16
They also do not have any children due to opppresively high taxes
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Hank Scorpio
- 2:39pm 9/28/16
False.
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Chris94
- 2:58pm 9/28/16
It's easier to blame free trade, though
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Chris94
- 11:40am 9/28/16
Free trade plays some role, but not as large of one.
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Frank L
- 12:02pm 9/28/16
No, the reason was they can pay workers $2/hour
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Hank Scorpio
- 12:44pm 9/28/16
Texas is a right-to-work state. Consequently, many companies are moving there. Lots of jobs.
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NedoftheHill
- 4:50pm 9/28/16
Untrue. They run it with a greatly reduced workforce.
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Frank L
- 3:05pm 9/28/16
...and when Skynet becomes self-aware...the shit really hits the fan. Bot Lives Matter!
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TakethetrainKnute
- 11:01am 9/28/16
Asimov disagrees.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:18pm 9/28/16
Don't you think Cameron got it closer to correct than Asimov?
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NedoftheHill
- 4:48pm 9/28/16
I think we'll kill ourselves off long before we develop AI capable of doing so.
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iairishcheeks
- 11:44pm 9/28/16
Is that glass half full...or empty?
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TakethetrainKnute
- 8:32am 9/29/16