With 2500 troops, not sure a 10/31 deadline would have been less of a LeapEx.

| Register

With 2500 troops, not sure a 10/31 deadline would have been less of a LeapEx.

Author: conorlarkin (21017 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:30 am on Sep 1, 2021

View All

8/31 was set for political reasons.

President Biden’s proclamations in July have clearly been shattered, as he miscalculated how quickly the Afghan Government would collapse.

But given that we now know how fragile the Afghan military/government tuned out to be (even after 20 years of US support), an extended exit would have resulted in similar chaos. Should we have slowly and quietly started the withdrawal and movement of Afghans beginning in March 2020? In retrospect, yes.

Should we have done so with a reinforced US military presence? Yes.

But, keep in mind that the Afghans themselves and US citizens living there likewise felt no sense of urgency to leave.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

Replies to: "With 2500 troops, not sure a 10/31 deadline would have been less of a LeapEx."

No questions allowed - Nigel Tufnel - 4:07pm 8/31/21 (68) [View All]
- The President just answered all questions. I have one for all the armchair experts on Afghanistan: [LINK] - conorlarkin - 10:23pm 8/31/21
  - So you agree that Biden lied about this clusterfuck being “an extraordinary success”? - BaronVonZemo - 9:21am 9/1/21
  - New Open Board rule - Nigel Tufnel - 8:22am 9/1/21
  - So, the issue that I'm guilty of failing to post about slipped the President's mind when he decided [LINK] - TakethetrainKnute - 4:58am 9/1/21
    - And that is his major fault. But who left him with the poison pill of 2500 troops, a May 1 deadline - Frank L - 8:44am 9/1/21
      - I haven't excused Trump's part in this at any point, Biden was somehow able to change the May 1st - TakethetrainKnute - 10:24am 9/1/21
        This is a good analysis. [NT] - Frank L - 11:05am 9/1/21
    - With 2500 troops, not sure a 10/31 deadline would have been less of a LeapEx. - conorlarkin - 6:30am 9/1/21
      - I generally agree with this, however I'm not arguing for a perfect date. What I'm saying is that a - TakethetrainKnute - 10:11am 9/1/21
      - Good post, but I doubt you realize we removed the Afghani’s Air Force capabilities which was the - BaronVonZemo - 9:40am 9/1/21
  - Why conor get it through your thick skull. They DON’T care what happened before 1/20. - Frank L - 11:02pm 8/31/21
    - Because it has NOTHING to do with wha t Biden did. [NT] - notredame678 - 7:29am 9/1/21
- Presidential addresses don’t involve questions - Chris94 - 6:32pm 8/31/21
  - Chris — you didn’t lose electric power? [NT] - conorlarkin - 10:52pm 8/31/21
    - We did. Whole town did. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:42pm 8/31/21
      - But power is now restored? [NT] - conorlarkin - 4:30am 9/1/21
  - It's really hard to believe you didn't win the biggest - ColeyO - 8:30pm 8/31/21
  - Dissembling does not become an intelligent man. Biden cannot take questions and we all know it. - Curly1918 - 8:27pm 8/31/21
    - Saying he has dementia doesn’t make it so. How much older than you is he? The dissembling part - Frank L - 8:47pm 8/31/21
      - Age is irrelevant... RBG was sharp as a tack at a much older age. - Curly1918 - 8:58pm 8/31/21
        You obviously have not been around those with even mild age related dementia. [NT] - Frank L - 9:09pm 8/31/21
      - Saying he handled the withdrawal as well as it could be handled doesn't make it so either... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:57pm 8/31/21
        Except I never said that. He didn’t. Just don’t pretend that what came before him would have. - Frank L - 9:07pm 8/31/21
        Where have I mentioned what came before him? - TakethetrainKnute - 2:56am 9/1/21
        Exactly the point - Frank L - 8:14am 9/1/21
        No, it's actually not. Meaning I've never excused what's come before...neither Trump's actions nor - TakethetrainKnute - 10:47am 9/1/21
        Just like I never said Joe handled it as well as it could be handled. [NT] - Frank L - 4:52pm 9/2/21
        
        👍🏻 - All these Trump-loving fools think he could do no wrong. [NT] - irishfaninPA - 11:51pm 8/31/21
        How so? [NT] - notredame678 - 7:31am 9/1/21
        
        Seems to hold for the Biden-loving tools as well. - TakethetrainKnute - 3:09am 9/1/21
        
        No need to pretend, Trump actually had a plan. [NT] - notredame678 - 9:27pm 8/31/21
    - He’s taken questions for 50 years. He doesn’t fear the press. [NT] - Chris94 - 8:35pm 8/31/21
      - I wouldn't either if they asked me about ice cream. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 9:58pm 8/31/21
      - King Lear was ok for most of his reign... [NT] - Curly1918 - 8:59pm 8/31/21
        Ozymandias was the bomb... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:01pm 8/31/21
      - 20 more years and he'll be even better. The 50 years is part of the problem... I'm sure HE doesn't - TakethetrainKnute - 8:56pm 8/31/21
  - Then why was the press there? - Nigel Tufnel - 8:19pm 8/31/21
    - Every president does this. And somber addresses like this one usually involve no questions. - Chris94 - 8:35pm 8/31/21
      - Somber? He was loud and defiant. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 9:02pm 8/31/21
      - You can't whitewash befuddlement with a casual use of the word "somber." [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:01pm 8/31/21
      - You call that performance somber? - Iggle - 8:50pm 8/31/21
        We lost a war. So…yeah. [NT] - Chris94 - 9:29pm 8/31/21
        And they didn't even have nukes or F-16s. Weird. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:30pm 8/31/21
  - Chris,if this is an"extraordinary success",are you praising Trump when you point your finger at him? - BaronVonZemo - 6:57pm 8/31/21
  - Just incredible. Such hypocrites. [NT] - Frank L - 6:52pm 8/31/21
    - Biden is clearing the path for a Republican sweep in 2022 and - WestCoastIrishFan - 6:59pm 8/31/21
      - You may be right about 2022. Don’t think so about 2024, if your favorite gets the nomination. [NT] - Frank L - 7:02pm 8/31/21
        Who’s my favorite? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:49pm 8/31/21
        
        DeSantis you mean? [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 7:09pm 8/31/21
        That won't heal Frank's perpetual TDS. He'll continue to rail about it. He can't move on [NT] - ColeyO - 8:36pm 8/31/21
- What a jerk. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 5:58pm 8/31/21
- This is how he ran for the job, why would he change now? [NT] - holybull101 - 5:58pm 8/31/21
- No questions needed [NT] [LINK] - jimbasil - 5:55pm 8/31/21
- Who will first to defend him: Qwesty, Tyrone, Chris, Frank ? [NT] - ColeyO - 5:38pm 8/31/21
  - First, they need there talking points to be fed to them. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:23pm 8/31/21
  - Says the guy who didn't give a shit about Afghanistan until this month. - Quest4twelve - 6:16pm 8/31/21
    - Says the guy who assured us everyone would get out. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:50pm 8/31/21
    - You are the winner.You just edged the others as the biggest jack off on the board. BTW, show - ColeyO - 7:04pm 8/31/21
    - I hope. I suspect we'll see these guys again soon. - Stark Raving Dad - 6:23pm 8/31/21
      - Hey, this administration can handle anything!...just not questions.... - TakethetrainKnute - 6:31pm 8/31/21
  - He is a career politician who has never been consequential on any matter in his lifetime unless he w - eftg1 - 6:03pm 8/31/21
- To say Biden owns the war is an understatement. He voted for the war and presided over it as VP for - eftg1 - 5:00pm 8/31/21
- That's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it works out for him. - Iggle - 4:38pm 8/31/21
- He’s a pussy [NT] - PBHangingChad - 4:31pm 8/31/21
- Biden says the Afghanistan Withdrawal was "An extraordinary success". Even his bar isn't that low-l - BaronVonZemo - 4:12pm 8/31/21
  - How's that compare to Baghdad Bob? [NT] - Cole - 4:43pm 8/31/21
- The guy is a shameless liar [NT] - CC72 - 4:10pm 8/31/21
  - NONSENSE! Lying requires scienter. He hasn't a clue. - Curly1918 - 4:29pm 8/31/21