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The only "practical" reason is the US helps its allies.

Author: ND_in_DRO  (3958 Posts - Joined: Nov 1, 2016)
Posted at 4:16 pm on Dec 23, 2016
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Our western European allies are taking a shit-ton of these refugees, and they really don't have a choice since most are just showing up (similar to many of our Latin American immigrants that are here to escape poverty/drug cartels). Agreeing to take some on helps our allies, which makes them more likely to help us with other issues (i.e., fighting terrorism globally and taking our side in disputes with Russia and China).

But the reality is there is not always a purely "practical" way to look at these issues. The situation in Syria is currently the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world. 99% of refugees just want out and a chance for a better life. There will be a very small percentage that are radicalized and/or have the capacity to become radicalized. Of course we have this risk with American citizens as well. We've all heard the terrible "poison M&M analogy". The problem with that analogy is these are real people undergoing real suffering...not inanimate pieces of candy.

The reason this has become a liberal vs conservative argument is similar to the reason gov't assistance for poor Americans is a liberal vs. conservative issue. In general, liberals are OK with gov't policies that help poor people even though they get nothing out of it themselves. Conservatives don't want any government policies that could be negative to them even if it could help others.


Replies to: “The only "practical" reason is the US helps its allies.”

  • Question for liberals: What benefit is it to America to let Middle Eastern Muslims immigrate here? - MarkHarman - 11:33pm 12/22/16 (58) [View All]
    • The only "practical" reason is the US helps its allies. - ND_in_DRO - 4:16pm 12/23/16
    • I'm not a liberal but I love Middle Eastern cuisine - Curly1918 - 2:03pm 12/23/16
      • Finally! A practical answer! [NT] - MarkHarman - 3:04pm 12/23/16
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    • The cabs can't drive themselves........................................yet. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 4:04am 12/23/16
    • Is being a human being "practical"? - Chris94 - 3:38am 12/23/16
      • Re: Is being a human being "practical"? - MarkHarman - 3:13pm 12/23/16
      • There are 7 billion of them. Is it practical to let them all in? Or, can lines be drawn? - NedoftheHill - 4:20am 12/23/16
      • How about the fact that our forebearers were given the same opportunity? [NT] - Frank L - 3:44am 12/23/16
        • Not the same opportunity. - NedoftheHill - 4:22am 12/23/16
          • Really? Our gov't didn't just give away land to any immigrant of European decent? - ND_in_DRO - 4:30pm 12/23/16
            • I'd rather give them the land. That would be a lot cheaper. - NedoftheHill - 8:29pm 12/23/16
            • Good point. The RR's actually advertised this in foreign nations. [NT] - Frank L - 8:23pm 12/23/16
          • I didn't say give them a free ride, but let them in to earn their way. [NT] - Frank L - 4:32am 12/23/16
            • Unfortunately, you probably won't be in charge of how, or whether, they integrate. - NedoftheHill - 4:59am 12/23/16
    • We need them - Nigel Tufnel - 3:14am 12/23/16
      • There are plenty in Latin America. Why not start there? Order of magnitude fewer integration issues. - NedoftheHill - 4:31am 12/23/16
      • I also think Democrates would supprt allowing them in. [NT] - Frank L - 3:50am 12/23/16
    • Because they do jobs that Americans who pursue Q school don't do? [NT] - Frank L - 2:27am 12/23/16
      • Someone needs to rake the traps. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 3:16am 12/23/16
    • Because they are beautiful . . . . and I want one. [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 1:05am 12/23/16
      • It is probably just the Cheerleader Effect, but I see your point. Yowzer! [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 4:27am 12/23/16
        • Just wait til you see what'S under the covers .. [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 10:02am 12/23/16
      • Yep, until she pulls the cord on her explosive vest. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 2:25am 12/23/16
        • I presume that is code for "orgasm." Cannot wait, LT! [NT] - conorlarkin - 2:40am 12/23/16
          • No code. Big explosition, people dead and maimed. [NT] - LTNDFAN - 3:21am 12/23/16
            • Now i feel like a cigarette. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:41am 12/23/16
      • Plus, sometimes they become president! [NT] - jakers - 1:10am 12/23/16
        • Bravo!! Spot fookin on!! [NT] - conorlarkin - 1:42am 12/23/16
    • Not a Lib obviously, but the answer is also obvious. The anwer that there is no - LTNDFAN - 12:19am 12/23/16
      • Re: Not a Lib obviously, but the answer is also obvious. The anwer that there is no - MarkHarman - 12:55am 12/23/16
        • Name the number of occasions. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 1:48am 12/23/16
        • Exactly, and this is where Liberals and Conservatives split. - jakers - 1:01am 12/23/16
      • Wait a minute there, LT. You mean to tell me that you are not liberal?!! - BaronVonZemo - 12:28am 12/23/16
    • Why is this a liberal versus conservative issue? [NT] - CC72 - 12:08am 12/23/16
      • Because liberals in general believe in letting anyone come here from anywhere [NT] - MarkHarman - 12:49am 12/23/16
        • it's called "open boarders". [NT] - Hank the Tank - 1:01am 12/23/16
          • An "open boarder" is a guy who lives in your house who is up for anything - Chris94 - 4:12am 12/23/16
            • I thought it was a double meaning...and both meanings worked. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:24am 12/23/16
          • They pay their board picking stuff and doing other crappy jobs. What do you do to contribute to the - Frank L - 2:34am 12/23/16
        • And wasting taxpayer money on the ones here illegally. [NT] - jakers - 12:54am 12/23/16
      • Because it is precisely divided between the two. [NT] - jakers - 12:27am 12/23/16
        • Bullshit [NT] - CC72 - 12:46am 12/23/16
    • The theoretical overall "net good" is higher with that choice. - jakers - 11:46pm 12/22/16
      • The US can't "save the lives" of 3 billion people who live in self inflicted shitholes. [NT] - CC72 - 12:10am 12/23/16
        • Of course not. I don't advocate it. [NT] - jakers - 12:24am 12/23/16
          • Yes you do [NT] - CC72 - 12:46am 12/23/16
            • No he doesn't. Read again what he wrote. [NT] - MarkHarman - 12:56am 12/23/16
            • You ignorant piece of shit. I do not want the refugees in the U.S - jakers - 12:53am 12/23/16

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