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Your terms of endearment notwithstanding, I get your concern...I share them...what I was trying to

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:26 pm on Sep 10, 2021
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convey is that a transition from fossil fuels - while maintaining, or certainly, growing an economy - is a tricky business. China is very aggressive in it's goal to be #1 (e.g. Xi's "Belt & Road Initiative"), so they need lots of power and coal is a plentiful resource that's readily implemented...nonetheless, I suspect that they see the long term writing on the wall and are not relying solely on coal and thus are also aggressively implementing a nuclear power strategy (even 'Fast Breeder Reactor' development).

How much they care about Climate Change is debatable, but the fact that they are investing heavily in zero carbon emission nuclear power, shows us that you can "keep the plane flying" as you change engines in mid-flight.

My view for the U.S. is to 'husband' our fossil fuel resources as much as possible while we make our own transition...both for long term energy independence...and for honoring our role in meeting the real challenge of 'Climate Change'...while we pursue our own rightful goal of being #1...not just in economic terms, but in political philosophy (i.e. Democracy).

This isn't a 'Binary' issue...the goal should be quite clear...it's the HUGE challenge of how to make the shift that's so daunting....btw, we'll be using fossil fuels for a very long time...just not so much of them.


Link: https://e360.yale.edu/features/despite-pledges-to-cut-emissions-china-goes-on-a-coal-spree

Replies to: "Your terms of endearment notwithstanding, I get your concern...I share them...what I was trying to"

  • canadia is a belching environmental disgrace. Shame on Hoserland. [NT] [LINK] - Aragoto - 9:31am 9/8/21 (39) [View All]
    • We're talking CO2 here, and all the countries listed are deep into fossil fuel use/production... - TyroneIrish - 12:34pm 9/8/21
      • Worry about what you are doing. What is under your control. - Aragoto - 12:39pm 9/8/21
        • Hard to argue with that...in fact someone would be masochistic to do so ;-). [NT] - TyroneIrish - 7:21pm 9/8/21
    • Competely inconsequential - Nigel Tufnel - 11:57am 9/8/21
      • Nigel...check out the link...China sees the problem and is taking the steps we should have started [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:29pm 9/8/21
        • China, who unleashed Covid-19 on the world, is now the responsible actor? - TakethetrainKnute - 3:00pm 9/8/21
          • First of all, no one thinks that China 'weaponized' COVID-19 and unleashed it on the world...not - TyroneIrish - 7:44pm 9/8/21
        • Oh give me a fucking break - Nigel Tufnel - 12:43pm 9/8/21
          • C'mon, Nigel...let's get off the emotion train and look a things logically...that info on China's - TyroneIrish - 7:28pm 9/8/21
            • Let's simply ignore the hundreds of coal-fired energy plants under construction/planned in China - Nigel Tufnel - 10:10am 9/9/21
              • Your terms of endearment notwithstanding, I get your concern...I share them...what I was trying to [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:26pm 9/10/21
          • Heh. I think that he’s a paid left wing Internet guy by all of the propaganda and spins he posts. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:58pm 9/8/21
            • Just stop with the nonsense...you know very well thats ridiculous...we're both ND grads...let's - TyroneIrish - 7:33pm 9/8/21
            • That's what I figure. It's not a bad strategy, to pay people to post. His execution is off, though. - NedoftheHill - 2:07pm 9/8/21
              • It’s like he takes a post back to his resource center and they say…… - BaronVonZemo - 6:28pm 9/8/21
              • We got a trainee? That's so disrespectful... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 2:20pm 9/8/21
                • True, but he was really polite at the start when he was trying to ingratiate himself. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:48pm 9/8/21
                  • Yes…”I’m really here primarily to discuss my pet issue…nuclear power.” [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 7:25pm 9/8/21
            • If so, they're not getting much bang for their buck, most just blow him and - ColeyO - 1:26pm 9/8/21
          • Agree 100% [NT] - ColeyO - 12:49pm 9/8/21
    • I feel obligated to pay rent. [NT] - Rooney - 11:37am 9/8/21
      • Clean up your mess. [NT] - Aragoto - 11:46am 9/8/21
      • They should advertise. - Frank L - 11:42am 9/8/21
    • It would be worse if they could not dump their garbage here in Michigan. [NT] [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:45am 9/8/21
      • It’s a great dumping place. Very use to environmental hazards such as Flint’s water. [NT] - Frank L - 10:40am 9/8/21
        • I worked on that class action. If they'd stayed with Detroit water this never would have happened. - Curly1918 - 10:59am 9/8/21
          • Cmon Jake, it’s Michigan. Only there would that water be considered a step up. - Frank L - 11:11am 9/8/21
            • Our lake water is actually pretty good, but ground water near former auto plants is less than ideal [NT] - Curly1918 - 12:04pm 9/8/21
              • I’ll cover that in my next Michigan ad proposal. - Frank L - 12:48pm 9/8/21
                • Funny that he is still in your head, even though you've ignored his posts for a few years. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:09pm 9/8/21
                  • Probably because he is a TDS whacko. [NT] - notredame678 - 3:42pm 9/8/21
                  • I did it so that you would post, and you did. Pretty funny. [NT] - Frank L - 3:12pm 9/8/21
        • The Big House...is certainly a fitting place for a large dump... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:49am 9/8/21
          • Or Spartan stadium. Or one of the militia training grounds. [NT] - Frank L - 10:59am 9/8/21
      • canadia is a GD environmental disgrace. [NT] - Aragoto - 9:53am 9/8/21
    • It would be worse if they could not dump their garbage here in Michigan. [NT] [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:45am 9/8/21
      • Was certain you were referring to Jennifer Granholm... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:02am 9/8/21
    • That’s a deflection of the highest order. [NT] - jimbasil - 9:44am 9/8/21
      • Inane comment by you. UN says they are worse than us. Period. [NT] - Aragoto - 9:51am 9/8/21
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