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Get vaccinated - don’t listen to the anti-vaxxers.

Author: jimbasil (52320 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 7:27 am on Nov 23, 2021
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Again? Alas.
A month ago, Covid-19 cases had begun to rise in a few parts of New England and the Mountain West. But they were still falling in most northern parts of the U.S., as well as in Canada.

That pattern seemed to suggest that a nationwide cold-weather Covid surge was unlikely anytime soon. The prediction models collected by the C.D.C. agreed: They projected continuing declines in U.S. Covid cases during November.

Instead, cases have surged about 30 percent this month.


Chart shows 7-day daily average.Source: New York Times database
It is a maddening development. Almost two years after Covid began spreading, it is still here, again creating anxiety as Americans prepare to gather for the holidays. Today’s newsletter will try to help you make sense of the pre-Thanksgiving surge.

The mystery of Covid
The seemingly obvious explanation for the recent rise in cases is the weather. As temperatures have dropped, more activities have moved indoors, where the Covid virus tends to spread. And the weather surely plays some role in the surge.

But I mentioned Canada above — along with the cold-weather parts of the U.S. where caseloads were not rising a month ago — for a reason. If the weather were really the dominant cause, the recent Covid patterns would look different. They would more closely match temperature patterns.

As unsatisfying as this is, the full explanation for the surge remains unclear. There is still much more that scientists do not know about how this virus spreads than they do know, as Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota epidemiologist, has been saying for months.

Media coverage and expert commentary too often fails to acknowledge this point. We offer tidy explanations for the virus’s ups and downs — like weather, school calendars, mask habits, even sporting events — when reality is messier. (Here are some detailed examples.)

The bad news about the virus’s unpredictability is that surges can sneak up on us: The lack of a Covid increase across most of northern North America a month ago was not as reassuring as it may have seemed.

The good news is that the virus can also surprise in pleasant ways. This winter, cases are not guaranteed to keep rising. Keep in mind that they peaked in early January last winter, before plummeting about 75 percent by late February. In coming weeks, I’d encourage you to ignore most Covid prognostications. Nobody knows what will happen next.

In the meantime, how should you think about the rising number of cases?

Zero point zero
For most people, the vaccines remain remarkably effective at turning Covid into a manageable illness that’s less dangerous than some everyday activities.

The main dividing line is age. In Minnesota, which publishes detailed Covid data, the death rate for fully vaccinated people under 50 during the Delta surge this year was 0.0 per 100,000 — meaning, so few people died that the rate rounds to zero.

Washington State is another place that publishes statistics by age and vaccination status. In its most recent report, Washington did not even include a death rate for fully vaccinated residents under 65. It was too low to be meaningful.

Hospitalization rates are also very low for vaccinated people under 65. In Minnesota during the Delta surge, the average weekly hospitalization rate for vaccinated residents between 18 and 49 was about 1 per 100,000.


Source: Minnesota Department of Health
To put that in perspective, I looked up data for some other medical problems. During a typical week in the U.S., nearly 3 people per 100,000 visit an emergency room because of a bicycle crash. The rate for vehicle crashes is about 20 per 100,000.

Covid is the threat on many of our minds. But for most people under 65, the virus may present less risk than a car trip to visit relatives this week. “The vaccination, I think, changes everything,” Dustin Johnston, 40, a photographer in Michigan who plans to gather with family, told The Times.

In need of protection
The situation is more frightening for older people, especially those in their 80s and 90s. For the oldest age groups, Covid presents a real risk even after vaccination. It appears to be more dangerous than a typical flu and much more dangerous than time spent riding in a vehicle, based on C.D.C. data.

As a result, older Americans need protection during a surge. (The same is also true of a small percentage of younger people with specific vulnerabilities to Covid, like organ-transplant recipients.) The most effective way to protect vulnerable people is through vaccination — not only of them but also of others who might infect them.

Children 5 and older, who are now eligible for vaccines, are an example. Covid remains overwhelmingly mild for them. But vaccinated children are less likely to infect other people than unvaccinated children, and a mild Covid case in a child can turn into a deadly case for an elderly grandparent.


Link: https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20211123&instance_id=46083&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN®i_id=143141481&segment_id=75125&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2F7f367ae1-ef71-5b1c-8c72-2c9d98d060a4&us

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and Jane, she is a clerk

Replies to: "Get vaccinated - don’t listen to the anti-vaxxers."

  • Get vaccinated - don’t listen to the anti-vaxxers. [LINK] - jimbasil - 7:27am 11/23/21 (24) [View All]
    • Now, it's the pandemic of unboostered, stupid. Listen to your doctor Dr Fauci - Eli - 9:29am 11/23/21
    • Why can’t you just shut up about this, CJ? The more people like you, Coror - TampaIrish - 9:02am 11/23/21
      • So you were going to clean the garage, but won’t now that your parents asked you? - conorlarkin - 9:50am 11/23/21
        • Now you think you’re my parents? Conor, live your life how you wish, I will live mine. - TampaIrish - 9:55am 11/23/21
          • Well said. Never see this before, blaming a product's failure on people who don't use it. [NT] - Eli - 10:10am 11/23/21
    • Get vaccinated. Don’t listen to this admin’s lies. - BaronVonZemo - 8:18am 11/23/21
      • Let's get right to it...name ONE LIE that Fauci has told...then when we're done with that we'll go - TyroneIrish - 1:54pm 11/23/21
      • Baron, since 1/1/2021 the vaccine hasn't changed anything. We had more covid deaths 2021 than 2020 - Eli - 9:38am 11/23/21
        • Those noncomptomised dying from it are mostly unvaxed. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:54pm 11/23/21
        • You’re trying to be serious, yes? [NT] - jimbasil - 9:50am 11/23/21
          • To Baron? of course. To you? depends. [NT] - Eli - 10:17am 11/23/21
      • But do listen to your FOX TV - The truth tellers. [NT] - jimbasil - 8:49am 11/23/21
      • But it's not a vaccine in the normal sense. It doesn't really prevent you from getting it, perhaps - Cole - 8:26am 11/23/21
        • Of course you support those who are anti-vaxxers. [NT] - jimbasil - 8:51am 11/23/21
        • "2172" ?!?! Geez, I'll be Biden's age by then... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:49am 11/23/21
        • Same horse shit, anti-science thinking cost Killshot his life. - Chris94 - 8:35am 11/23/21
          • Tobacco cost his life, according to his son. Smokers certainly are in risky group. Don't be mean. [NT] - Eli - 9:49am 11/23/21
            • I was unaware that KS smoked… - Domer From Hell - 12:10pm 11/23/21
            • Chris knows more than his son, Eli. I’m sure KS’s story was shared by Chris - TampaIrish - 10:05am 11/23/21
          • Which one of these statements is incorrect? 1. The Feds said they'll produce FOIA data by 2172. - Cole - 8:58am 11/23/21
    • NYSlimes. [NT] - Cole - 8:06am 11/23/21
    • It is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated. - conorlarkin - 7:53am 11/23/21
      • Natural immunity yo. Unvaxxed hug outs are the way to go. [NT] - Frank L - 8:10am 11/23/21
        • Natural Immunity which is WAAAAAAAAAAAY better [NT] - StayGolden - 12:05pm 11/23/21
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