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One of long term effects I am concerned is so-called original antigenic sin (OAS).

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:00 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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The first flu shot in your childhood, or if you're like me who didn't have flu shot in childhood, the first flu you get is important to your immune system.

The immune response which is first established either through flu shot or flu we caught continues to characterize us throughout our life. Our immune mechanisms are conditioned and primed by the first stimulus we get (either flu shot or flu, whichever comes first). This is the reason why many times the flu shots don't work when influenza contains a novel strain. These flu shots are powerless to redirect our immune systems against the novel influenza strains. This is called original antigenic sin.

The point here is that the first shot is important. You don't want your immune system to be primed/conditioned with a leaky and flawed vaccine. It is not good for your future even this vaccine provides antibody which gives you temporary protection. Antibody protection is secondary protection and temporary protection. The most important immunity of your immune system is immunity from T cell and B cell which current vaccines are unable to do that.


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Replies to: "One of long term effects I am concerned is so-called original antigenic sin (OAS)."

  • shots for everyone and be sure to hide the research while you’re at it [NT] [LINK] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:40am 12/20/21 (36) [View All]
    • Trump admits that he got his "Booster Shot"...any comment? [NT] [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:55pm 12/20/21
      • Um...good for him? He's always been pro-vax. I'm pro-choice on the booster. - NedoftheHill - 5:24pm 12/20/21
        • Being 'dead' serious here, Ned...watch the first few minutes of the UCSF Grand Rounds video I posted - TyroneIrish - 6:20pm 12/20/21
          • Your description of the video doesn't address my concern. - NedoftheHill - 9:39pm 12/20/21
          • The uncertainly of it’s impact is my concern. 30% are ripe for picking and much more if the need for - Frank L - 6:38pm 12/20/21
      • Sure. Biden sucks and you're a snitch. Thank Ty, I feel better. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 3:19pm 12/20/21
        • LOL...This little "Meme" of yours is hilarious...seriously, WHO did I "snitch" to?...about WHAT? ;-) - TyroneIrish - 3:51pm 12/20/21
          • I should save my derision for grown assed men who type "LOL"? - Stark Raving Dad - 9:08pm 12/20/21
            • Can't answer, can you?...on with your 'meme'... - TyroneIrish - 9:29pm 12/20/21
              • I got substance the size of bowling balls. - Stark Raving Dad - 9:36pm 12/20/21
                • I was speaking 'intellectual' substance...you went 'physical'...it's worse than I thought... - TyroneIrish - 2:10am 12/21/21
      • what do you want me to say? I have no issue with anyone getting a shot. If you want to do PCP, I - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:04pm 12/20/21
        • Speaking of choices, are you OK with litterbugs? People who dodge paying their taxes? - conorlarkin - 4:51pm 12/20/21
          • those things impact me. I'm not convinced my vaccination has much of an impact on anything other - WestCoastIrishFan - 4:57pm 12/20/21
            • That is the typical current GOP mindset. Only what directly impacts me. This situation could impact - Frank L - 5:10pm 12/20/21
              • Exactly. They do not care that hospitals and staff are overwhelmed during the holidays. - conorlarkin - 9:52pm 12/20/21
                • The easy fix is to renege on the Hippocratic Oath? - wrdomerson - 12:55pm 12/21/21
                  • Fair point. Renege no, but I would treat vaxxed first if given the choice. [NT] - Frank L - 12:59pm 12/21/21
                • I have no problem with that. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 6:59am 12/21/21
                • Racist. [NT] - notredame678 - 10:18pm 12/20/21
        • I'm confused here...you got your shots (hopefully mRNA type), ostensibly to protect yourself first, - TyroneIrish - 3:22pm 12/20/21
          • I got my shot only because I knew it would become a requirement in places. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 4:23pm 12/20/21
            • LOL!...Whatever it takes...thanks for joining the "In Crowd" ;-) [NT] - TyroneIrish - 4:48pm 12/20/21
    • “Despite the rare side effects, the vaccine safety board said the benefits of vaccination greatly - Frank L - 2:09pm 12/20/21
      • True, it's a horrible tragedy. I just don't think the vaccines do much and believe natural immunity - WestCoastIrishFan - 2:30pm 12/20/21
        • Natural immunity works even less against this than the vax of which you need a triple dose. - Frank L - 2:38pm 12/20/21
    • NZ has 2 confirmed deaths from the vaccine and population of 5 million. We have 330 mil people - Cole - 10:53am 12/20/21
      • Mere anecdote, but seems doctors are reluctant to tie side effects to vaccine. - NedoftheHill - 1:46pm 12/20/21
      • plague rat [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 12:43pm 12/20/21
    • Let’s go Brandon! [NT] - holybull101 - 10:38am 12/20/21
    • I'm more concerned with long-term effects - MarkHarman - 7:57am 12/20/21
      • One of long term effects I am concerned is so-called original antigenic sin (OAS). - Eli - 12:00pm 12/20/21
        • I, for one, really wish you'd do more research before posting half-truths and speculations, when [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:36pm 12/20/21
          • Anyone saying any long term concern has been addressed is not just a liar, a stupid liar - Eli - 4:04pm 12/20/21
            • Eli, for heavens sake...read the article, if you haven't yet...the scientific community SPECIFICALLY - TyroneIrish - 5:16pm 12/20/21
      • don't worry, the government will be absolved from any responsibility, and they'll be sure to put the - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:41am 12/20/21
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