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No, the story says they want to see what an investigation shows, and they are not presuming guilt

Author: BaronVonZemo (61102 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 10:50 am on Oct 17, 2018
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ahead of time. I do think that Turkish leaks could be a lie with political motives. At the same time, they could be true. We are going to have a hard time getting at the real truth, but i think that it will eventually become clear. It seems prudent to let all sides make their case first instead of acting emotionally and presuming guilt. Once again, there is a push by the media to presume guilt of their perceived adversaries.

The NYT again presents "Fake News" with a headline saying that Trump is "jumping to Saudi Arabia's defense" when in fact he and Pompeo are saying that we must always presume innocence until evidence shows otherwise. This is a basic tenant of all western civilizations. It is also a prudent decision by a good leader. Further, it does NOT mean that Trump will back SAafter the information is all collected. He is only "jumping to their defense" int that he supports their right to presumed innocence until proven otherwise.


Replies to: "No, the story says they want to see what an investigation shows, and they are not presuming guilt"

  • Horrible details on the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. [LINK] - MAS - 11:54pm 10/16/18 (35) [View All]
    • Monsters. Didn’t the Saudi’s themselves recently admit that this was “a interrogation gone bad”? - BaronVonZemo - 7:43am 10/17/18
      • The only information released so far has been what the Turkish gov wants to let out - CC72 - 7:04pm 10/17/18
      • Trump apparently believes bin Salman's side of the story [LINK] - ND_in_DRO - 8:46am 10/17/18
        • Even Trump isn’t that stupid regardless of his inane statements - CC72 - 7:09pm 10/17/18
        • No, the story says they want to see what an investigation shows, and they are not presuming guilt - BaronVonZemo - 10:50am 10/17/18
          • Perhaps we can use their own interrogation techniques on the Saudi princes. - LehighND - 1:04pm 10/17/18
            • Why did we send so many Gitmo prisoners to Saudi Arabia? - CC72 - 8:07pm 10/17/18
              • I love this post. - LehighND - 8:21pm 10/17/18
                • Correction: I should have said “CIA protected Opium producer and Goat farm”. My bad. [NT] - CC72 - 8:32pm 10/17/18
    • LOL. The propaganda funded by Qatar, associated with Muslim brotherhood & promoted by - Eli - 1:56am 10/17/18
      • Stop being a fool. [NT] - Frank L - 11:56am 10/17/18
        • Jesus himself could come off the cross and tell Eli that the the Saudi leaders did it. - LehighND - 1:05pm 10/17/18
          • Only Eli and Orange believe the Saudi version. Of course Donnie has his bidness reasons for it. - Frank L - 1:11pm 10/17/18
            • Let me repeat one more time, you fool: So far we know nothing except what Turkey tells us. - Eli - 1:32pm 10/17/18
              • Read The NY Times article fool. None of this has been refuted, none of it. [NT] - Frank L - 6:02pm 10/17/18
                • LOL. Keep being a fool. NYT use Turkish souce too. I know it's too complicated to you, but let me - Eli - 7:27pm 10/17/18
                  • No, not all we know is simply Turkey’s word. - Frank L - 7:42pm 10/17/18
              • How do we know Turkey's "propaganda" is funded by Qatar? [NT] - LehighND - 2:45pm 10/17/18
                • The linked MEE is funded by Qatar. MEE report uses Turkey as the only source. - Eli - 4:10pm 10/17/18
                  • Thanks for the response. - LehighND - 5:29pm 10/17/18
        • Fools are those who believe a propaganda which has no single witness account in its story. [NT] - Eli - 12:53pm 10/17/18
          • The irony of this coming from Putin's biggest fan on the board... [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 1:59pm 10/17/18
            • The irony of this coming from Russophobe like you who rather believe Erdoğan. Hypocrisy beyond - Eli - 4:21pm 10/17/18
              • They are both murderers. So are the Saudis. None of what they Turks have said has been refuted. - Frank L - 6:04pm 10/17/18
          • Facts: he walked in there alive. He never walked out and is dead. A hit team including a forensic - Frank L - 1:05pm 10/17/18
            • irrelevant to MAS' link. Stop embarrassing yourself. [NT] - Eli - 1:14pm 10/17/18
              • Uhm, no, they are the facts. If you disagree, refute them. [NT] - Frank L - 6:00pm 10/17/18
      • You think torture and murder is funny? You are peculiar. [NT] - Rooney - 10:40am 10/17/18
        • Eli hasn’t heard of an authoritarian who he didn’t like. He regularly defends Putin. [NT] - Frank L - 11:55am 10/17/18
      • You have a better explanation of what happened? - ND_in_DRO - 8:47am 10/17/18
        • At this moment anyone who is not witness can tell you what happened in such a detail is a liar. What - Eli - 1:05pm 10/17/18
          • So how did they manage to kill this guy? Facts, not BS. [NT] - Frank L - 1:07pm 10/17/18
      • There are recordings. - Chris94 - 7:44am 10/17/18
        • #awaitingenlightenmentonwhyweneedtosupportIsraelinthatregion. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:16am 10/17/18
    • Rogue operatives. Thanks Trump. [NT] - jimbasil - 12:17am 10/17/18
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