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No one openly claims to want an open border - they just want everything else

Author: Fisher01 (6462 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:48 pm on Dec 30, 2018

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They just claim every single action of immigration enforcement is "inhumane" and "splitting up families."

They just want to abolish ICE.

They just want a "dreamer bill" which often is a code-word for hidden amnesty.

They just want an end to all deportations.

They just want anyone caught at the border to be able to claim refugee status, and effectively disappear after that date.

They just are fiercely opposed to any immigration enforcement by non-federal authorities. They will claim it is due to the rule of law, but in reality it is because local authorities would be more efficient.

No, they do not want open borders. They just want to provide a framework that makes immigration policing impossible, both in border protection and interior measures.

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Replies to: "No one openly claims to want an open border - they just want everything else"

Surrender monkeys? - Curly1918 - 11:55am 12/30/18 (28) [View All]
- logical analysis of illegal immigration. - und67 - 11:46am 12/31/18
  - "The media is public enemy #1" - LehighND - 1:45pm 12/31/18
    - I believe that is a quote from every dictator ever [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 2:22pm 1/1/19
      - it's a paraphrase from a guy named ulysses s. grant. [NT] - und67 - 4:24pm 1/1/19
- Well said, and you struck a nerve with your candor as can be see by the absurd denials. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:12am 12/31/18
- Not the stupidest comment you’ve ever made, but close [NT] - jimbasil - 4:09pm 12/30/18
  - Fair enough... now what items on the list are to willing to oppose? [NT] - Curly1918 - 10:25am 12/31/18
- Who wants open borders? [LINK] - LehighND - 12:09pm 12/30/18
  - No one openly claims to want an open border - they just want everything else - Hank Scorpio - 9:48pm 12/30/18
    - Lehigh believes this is all a creation of the right wing media and that there aren’t those on the - Frank L - 10:12pm 12/30/18
      - Oh, I agree - Hank Scorpio - 9:46am 12/31/18
    - Who wants these things? [NT] - LehighND - 9:53pm 12/30/18
      - Seriously? - BaronVonZemo - 6:54am 12/31/18
        Words have meaning, though. - LehighND - 1:41pm 12/31/18
  - you do for one [NT] - Hank the Tank - 7:07pm 12/30/18
  - You are correct... no one on this board wants any of the crazy sh*t on this list - Curly1918 - 5:45pm 12/30/18
    - It's amazing that health care and education are considered "crazy shit" by the Right. [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 2:20pm 1/1/19
    - I misunderstood your OP, then. It seemed like you were complaining about the mainstream left. - LehighND - 1:36pm 12/31/18
      - Partially correct. My beef is that the mainstream on both sides is held hostage to the extremes. - Frank L - 2:20pm 12/31/18
        Mitt made an issue out of it in 2012. - Frank L - 3:14pm 12/31/18
        Your anecdote brings up a good question. - LehighND - 4:41pm 12/31/18
        There wasn’t anything to hold him on at that point other than the ICE detainer. - Frank L - 8:10pm 12/31/18
        So the same as any other violent offender? - LehighND - 12:47pm 1/1/19
        Correct, but why should we have illegals with histories of violent crimes walking our streets? - Frank L - 2:14pm 1/1/19
        
        Responds to hippy below. [NT] - Frank L - 3:15pm 12/31/18
        
        I've often wondered what the argument is against better enforcement. - LehighND - 2:58pm 12/31/18
    - This is correct. Immigration should have been dealt with long before on a bipartisan basis. [NT] - Frank L - 5:56pm 12/30/18
  - All the straw men. [NT] - Rooney - 5:01pm 12/30/18