protect them to the death but they also know I wouldn't let them get away with bullshit like tormenting an 80 year old man. Just because I'd make them own the error of their ways doesn't mean I'd hang them out to dry. By the way, once kids understand this message, they are extremely cautious about crossing lines. Never raised a hand to either of my kids because there was no need to. They know if I say something, I will follow through. Plus I beat it into their heads that "electronic is forever" and cameras are everywhere. There is no more he said/she said in this world. The day's of street corner smack talk are over. If you act like a jackass, you're likely to pay a very dear price.