Here are some true statements:

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Here are some true statements:

Author: Iggle (5078 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 1:18 pm on Feb 9, 2019

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1) Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas - I challenge you to find a single scientist who disputes this.
2) The concentration of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere has more than doubled since the start of the industrial revolution - Ice cores allow for this to be measured with great precision for thousands of years. I challenge you to find a single scientist who believes this is from some natural process and not man-made.
3) The concentration continues to increase right this second - Measurements on Mauna Loa confirm this every time they are made
4) Carbon Dioxide is very persistent in the atmosphere, it takes up to 200 years for it to be removed via natural processes.

Any reasonable person would conclude that the earth will continue to warm relative to whatever baseline "natural" process is happening because of this. The only question is by how much.

Any reasonable person would conclude that it makes sense for us to investigate ways to mitigate these impacts in order to avoid extremely expensive worst-case outcomes (rapid melting of the Antarctic ice sheets, coastal inundation, etc).

An unreasonable person would dismiss all this as some leftist religion and draw the line at any mitigation process that costs more than $0.01.

Replies to: "Here are some true statements:"

Evidence of Viking barley farms in Greenland 800 yrs ago when Climate was warmer. [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 9:14am 2/9/19 (51) [View All]
- Here are some true statements: - Iggle - 1:18pm 2/9/19
  - Your statements have nothing to do this new fact found in Greenland. - Eli - 10:56pm 2/9/19
    - Are you contending that the current increase in CO2 is a lagged effect from the last Ice Age? - Iggle - 11:15am 2/10/19
      - Climate skeptic's thinking isn't linear single variable causal determinism. Alarmists tend to think - Eli - 2:08pm 2/10/19
        Thank you, Eli Bachmann [NT] - jimbasil - 6:02pm 2/10/19
        Welcome again, Jim Alarmist. I said this stuff 5 years ago, but never expect you to understand it. [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 8:10pm 2/10/19
    - There are no words for the inaneness of your post. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:02pm 2/9/19
      - No word please. words lie. Math doesn't. CO2 emitted by man is easy to get, increased CO2 in air - Eli - 11:31pm 2/9/19
      - Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 11:07pm 2/9/19
  - the question is; What to do about it? - Hank the Tank - 6:38pm 2/9/19
    - I like it, good start Hank [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 8:49pm 2/9/19
      - I used to work with a guy who believed that. He wanted to get rid of a third of all humans. - NedoftheHill - 10:02am 2/10/19
        Nature will take care of it. - AlbanyIRISH - 5:52pm 2/10/19
  - It is a multi-systemic issue. [NT] [LINK] - Aragoto - 5:26pm 2/9/19
  - Not sure anything can be done until China decides to do it. [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 4:08pm 2/9/19
    - If you look at what your CO2 graph actually looks like now [LINK] - Iggle - 4:52pm 2/9/19
      - I didn't disagree with you. Also, the image isn't edited; its wikimedia - NedoftheHill - 9:30am 2/10/19
  - I don’t disagree but you only see the negatives. What about the increase in human quality of life - PBHangingChad - 3:30pm 2/9/19
    - Who said anything about denying them power? [NT] - Iggle - 4:54pm 2/9/19
    - Just let them all come here. That is their right, after all. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:56pm 2/9/19
  - Surprise, surprise. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:23pm 2/9/19
  - Excellent post. - conorlarkin - 1:26pm 2/9/19
    - Not if you were living in Africa or some other third world nation. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 3:34pm 2/9/19
      - Yes. The people beyond the wall love typhoons and tsunamis. [NT] - conorlarkin - 3:48pm 2/9/19
        So we caused that but they shouldn’t enjoy a better standard of living. You are the definition of - PBHangingChad - 4:10pm 2/9/19
        A remarkable post. - jimbasil - 11:07pm 2/9/19
        Take America back 100 years and where would this country be without fossil fuels? - PBHangingChad - 11:21pm 2/9/19
        
        Are you on meth??? - conorlarkin - 5:01pm 2/9/19
        
        That's pretty funny. - NedoftheHill - 4:02pm 2/9/19
- Make Greenland great again...and that's good for America how? - ND_in_DRO - 9:20am 2/9/19
  - So in 100 years the sea will rise here in FL 14 feet? That will give me beachfront property. My - PBHangingChad - 9:40am 2/9/19
    - A solid Blue State!! About time! [NT] - conorlarkin - 9:57am 2/9/19
    - There is science proving that if we don't stop increasing CO2, temps will keep rising - ND_in_DRO - 9:49am 2/9/19
      - Yet here is scientific fact which flies in the face of what you have been told. Remember ATL, - BaronVonZemo - 10:26am 2/9/19
        Let’s see if you use critical thinking - why would anyone want to give up - jimbasil - 2:19pm 2/9/19
      - I don’t understand the climate change people the real immediate problem is Plastics - PBHangingChad - 9:55am 2/9/19
        Indeed. Pollution control is what should unite us, not a faux political religion governed by zealots [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:00am 2/9/19
        So I take it you are opposed to Trump's rollback of the Clean Water Act? [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 10:29am 2/9/19
        Yes I am, in fact. I am out of town until tomorrow night so I'll gladly answer the - BaronVonZemo - 5:31pm 2/9/19
        
        Having a view on pollution/plastics has nothing to do with the highest level of water quality in US. - NedoftheHill - 4:17pm 2/9/19
  - The point........................................................................................you - TakethetrainKnute - 9:33am 2/9/19
    - The climate can change naturally.... - ND_in_DRO - 9:38am 2/9/19
      - You seem to be getting it now. - TakethetrainKnute - 9:50am 2/9/19
        We need to start building a great and beautiful wall a hundred miles in from the East Coast. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:19pm 2/9/19
      - Both Straw Man and False Dichotomy fallacies in the same post. You’re being a “Bitter Clinger” - BaronVonZemo - 9:46am 2/9/19
  - It’s a natural cycle that we can’t change and thus shouldn’t use to justify taxes. In fact, if we - BaronVonZemo - 9:31am 2/9/19
    - Is ocean acidification natural also? - ND_in_DRO - 9:36am 2/9/19
      - Implicitly Include in these cycles is increased/decreased salinity. Ozone is pollution issue..... - BaronVonZemo - 9:40am 2/9/19
        Please explain this graph [IMAGE] - ND_in_DRO - 9:46am 2/9/19
        Two things can indeed occur simultaneously and not be causal or impactful in degrees of significance - BaronVonZemo - 9:56am 2/9/19
        Data is from NOAA [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 10:24am 2/9/19