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But your criticism applies equally to each.
Author:
NedoftheHill
(40960 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)
Posted at 9:44 pm on Mar 15, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Replies to: "But your criticism applies equally to each."
Today, it's not so much some R's joined the D's to vote down Trumps BS national emergency
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jimbasil
- 10:59am 3/15/19
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Obama declared a NE for the election in Burundi and Congress didn't do shit. But if Trump does it,
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Cole
- 1:35pm 3/15/19
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Cole
- 1:51pm 3/15/19
Ha! Nice try.
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Chris94
- 1:43pm 3/15/19
Not true. Obama's immigration EO's directly did something Congress voted down.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:26pm 3/15/19
And Orange’s ED appropriates money that Congress refused to authorize.
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Frank L
- 8:34pm 3/15/19
Um. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that was Chris94's point. But thanks for repeating it.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:43pm 3/15/19
You’re welcome. One can at least argue that immigration restrictions have been a prez power. Not the
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Frank L
- 10:19pm 3/15/19
You don't think Obama's EO's led to any spending?
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NedoftheHill
- 11:17pm 3/15/19
Was the money then not authorized by Congress? Here the issue is expenditure now directly opposed by
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Frank L
- 10:10am 3/16/19
Yes, the money was not authroized by Congress.
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NedoftheHill
- 10:04am 3/17/19
Please detail this unappropriated spending.
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Frank L
- 3:47pm 3/17/19
That is not an emergency declaration. Not covered by the same act of congress.
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Chris94
- 4:47pm 3/15/19
But your criticism applies equally to each.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:44pm 3/15/19
I think you previously stated that he has the power to declare a NE on the border wall and
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Cole
- 1:51pm 3/15/19
He does have the power.
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Chris94
- 2:47pm 3/15/19
Did you?
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LehighND
- 1:40pm 3/15/19
Why do you think this is unconstitutional?
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NedoftheHill
- 11:03am 3/15/19
So, I haven't read the statute lately.
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LehighND
- 1:30pm 3/15/19
I just looked at it.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:16pm 3/15/19
I just took a brief look, and it does not seem to require an actual emergency.
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LehighND
- 3:29pm 3/15/19
I think that part was adjudicated. A Joint Resolution with POTUS signature is required.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:54pm 3/15/19
Both Chambers said it wasn't an emergency therefore it's not.
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jimbasil
- 11:19am 3/15/19
Maybe both chambers shouldn't have surrendered their power to make that determination.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:35am 3/15/19
I do think it’s an emergency personally, but I agree that the bigger problem yet is the overpowered
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BaronVonZemo
- 1:00pm 3/15/19
That's another interpretational issue that confuses me.
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LehighND
- 1:36pm 3/15/19
It's a judgment call. The wall could definitely help in the long run.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:02pm 3/15/19
On your last question - no.
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LehighND
- 3:36pm 3/15/19
Solid points. I agree. Although, I'm not sure how to limit it to real emergencies.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:56pm 3/15/19
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BaronVonZemo
- 1:00pm 3/15/19
The Act allows Congress to overrule the President, which they have.
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Curly1918
- 11:09am 3/15/19
It does seem weird, doesn't it?
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NedoftheHill
- 11:36am 3/15/19