Bulger was in the wrong prison. Too many enemies. Doubt that was planned but believe what you want.

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Bulger was in the wrong prison. Too many enemies. Doubt that was planned but believe what you want.

Author: Frank L (45905 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:22 pm on Aug 10, 2019

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With Epstein, we don’t know yet what happened. With a prior attempt he should have a least been in a strip cell. Maybe he was, don’t know yet.

I’ve had cases where guys have killed themselves on one on one watch.

Hard to stop someone really determined.

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The Seth Rich killers finally aced Epstein. Give us the right wing twatter update Cole dear. [NT] - Frank L - 11:31am 8/10/19 (30) [View All]
- First Bulger put in gen pop. Lasts a few days. Now they give Epstein sheets while on suicide watch - Cole - 12:17pm 8/10/19
  - Bulger was in the wrong prison. Too many enemies. Doubt that was planned but believe what you want. - Frank L - 12:22pm 8/10/19
- This isn't fishy at all. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:02pm 8/10/19
  - WaPo agrees. [NT] [LINK] - Cole - 12:21pm 8/10/19
    - Did they interview Frank for the article? He knows the truth. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:42pm 8/10/19
      - Uhm no, but I do handle prison suicide litigation and investigations. You? - Frank L - 1:56pm 8/10/19
        I thought you were saying this was a suicide. Good to hear you are open to the facts. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:10pm 8/10/19
        The authorities are saying it’s a suicide. There is no reason or facts at this point to suggest - Frank L - 8:57pm 8/10/19
        Right. No reason to assume otherwise. No reason at all. Can't think of one. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:16pm 8/11/19
        There isn’t except your speculations. Autopsy has been done. If foul play hasn’t been ruled out we - Frank L - 7:07pm 8/11/19
        Well, I know that the reasons they came up with to investigate Trump were fabricated by sources... - NedoftheHill - 8:32pm 8/11/19
        You would have just ignored all that......unless Hillary had had those contacts. - Frank L - 9:22pm 8/11/19
        If Trump had a foreign source accuse HRC of colluding with foreign sources? Same issues. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:11pm 8/13/19
  - Not unless protocol wasn't followed on the watch level or checks. - Frank L - 12:05pm 8/10/19
- Update my understanding on this term: suicide watch = watching a person while he committed suicide. [NT] - Eli - 11:57am 8/10/19
  - People on suicide watch commit suicide all the time. Thankfully, as I still have some college to pay - Frank L - 12:03pm 8/10/19
    - Why would he not have been on the latter option given that he attempted it a couple weeks ago? - MAS - 12:29pm 8/10/19
      - Normally that is for inmates considered to be actively suicidal meaning they are at imminent risk. - Frank L - 12:46pm 8/10/19
        You don't find that fishy at all for a case of this magnitude? You would know better, but - MAS - 12:48pm 8/10/19
        Normally a high profile suicide is that last thing the prison officials want. - Frank L - 12:55pm 8/10/19
        I was addressing the potential claim that prison officials wanted him to do it as part of some - Frank L - 1:15pm 8/10/19
        Responds to MAS. [NT] - Frank L - 1:15pm 8/10/19
        
        There's a logical fallacy in there somewhere. - MAS - 1:06pm 8/10/19
    - Are you talking in general or Federal prison? Don't Fed prisons have higher security than state's? [NT] - Eli - 12:12pm 8/10/19
      - I am talking in any prison. Suicide protocol is Correctional Health Care 101. - Frank L - 12:17pm 8/10/19
        Ok. tell us how many suicides happened just 1 month after being arrested and right before trial? - Eli - 12:35pm 8/10/19
        Plenty. Upcoming trials can be a triggering factor as can recent incarceration. [NT] - Frank L - 12:39pm 8/10/19
        OK. To summarize: suicides of high profile, on suicide watch, only 1 month in fed prison are plenty [NT] - Eli - 12:57pm 8/10/19
        Well no, but not many inmates fit that profile. But take any of those three categories, and they - Frank L - 1:02pm 8/10/19
    - * [NT] - Frank L - 12:04pm 8/10/19