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Because it's political to them. If NRA was PP-like Dem donor/supporter, they would be pro 2nd Amend
Author:
BaronVonZemo
(52773 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:25 pm on Aug 11, 2019
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Replies to: "Because it's political to them. If NRA was PP-like Dem donor/supporter, they would be pro 2nd Amend"
Why do commie Dems want gun manufacturers held liable when a murderer uses their product
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CC72
- 12:14pm 8/11/19
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Because it's political to them. If NRA was PP-like Dem donor/supporter, they would be pro 2nd Amend
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BaronVonZemo
- 1:25pm 8/11/19
Like Moscow Mitch?
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golfernot
- 2:04pm 8/11/19
Maybe gov't should fund NRA firearms training. NRA can promise to keep money separate.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:28pm 8/11/19
I didn't know that Planned Parenthood was involved in Firearms Training.
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golfernot
- 4:48pm 8/11/19
You’re operating at about 3 levels below the conversation.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:53pm 8/11/19
Good one. Get that from an Orange tweet?
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golfernot
- 9:07pm 8/11/19
No firearms necessary to mutilate a baby in the womb.
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MAS
- 4:52pm 8/11/19
Interesting they trust Trump to take guns away. Maybe they don't actually think Trump is a dictator.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:24pm 8/11/19
Your point re hypocrisy:Why doesn't Left see ID for guns as racist, black gun owner suppression?
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BaronVonZemo
- 1:29pm 8/11/19
So guns are a black thing.
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golfernot
- 4:51pm 8/11/19
Must be the case for you. Otherwise, why would you propose a solution which relies on IDs?
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NedoftheHill
- 5:10pm 8/11/19
I don't recall proposing a "solution". Please enlighten.
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golfernot
- 9:02pm 8/11/19
That's your tact? You are going to dissociate yourself from Dem proposals? Good for you.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:17pm 8/11/19
Check out all of his unimaginative [NT] posts in just this thread. Not worth the time.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:17am 8/12/19
Why wouldn’t it be the same solution for both things for Dems? Hmmmm.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:54pm 8/11/19
Indeed. Why do the Dems want to disarm African-Americans by requiring an ID to buy arms.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:44pm 8/11/19
I think most Dems would prefer no guns whatsoever. The most interesting point here is...
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MAS
- 2:36pm 8/11/19
You have hit the nail on the head.
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BaronVonZemo
- 5:16pm 8/11/19
With the same swiftness that views re gay marriage changed, same happening re gun reform.
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conorlarkin
- 1:21pm 8/11/19
All civilizations decay.,, it isn't actually "progressive" at all..
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Curly1918
- 5:46pm 8/11/19
Let’s see pederasty, infanticide, mass murder, and restrictions on guns. Which doesn’t go with the
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Frank L
- 5:49pm 8/11/19
None! They are all interconnected deep in the human unconscious.
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Curly1918
- 5:57pm 8/11/19
If you say so.
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Frank L
- 11:55am 8/12/19
Rights aren't subject to vote. Glad we have a civil rights organization like the NRA protecting us.
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NedoftheHill
- 1:25pm 8/11/19
Be honest... the NRA suffer from serious castration anxiety... and are terrified of threats...
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Curly1918
- 5:49pm 8/11/19
That is a little dramatic. It is more simple than that.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:13pm 8/11/19
“civil rights organization.” You understand its purpose, alright.
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Chris94
- 3:09pm 8/11/19
I always thought a combination of the ACLU & NRA would make the perfrect civil rights organization.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:19pm 8/11/19
Dont worry ACLU absolutism is also alive and well. Take Charlottesville.
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Frank L
- 9:58pm 8/11/19
The NRA was not established to protect rights, Ned.
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Chris94
- 3:40pm 8/11/19
I don't want to embarrass you, Chris, but you are outside your area of expertise on this.
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NedoftheHill
- 4:10pm 8/11/19
You’re simply wrong
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Chris94
- 6:02pm 8/11/19
I respect that you recognize your earlier post is wrong, so you changed. But, you're still wrong.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:16pm 8/11/19
Membership is irrelevant. It is a lobbying org for gun manufacturers.
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Chris94
- 8:34am 8/12/19
Membership, especially of that magnitude, makes all the difference. You are wrong, Chris.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:38am 8/12/19
It was initially a sportsman’s group. No lobbying and they didn’t give two shits about handguns.
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Frank L
- 5:47pm 8/11/19
And supported several kinds of gun control they oppose today.
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MAS
- 7:16pm 8/11/19
Yep. Now it’s essentially a group run by lawyers and lobbyists who take the most extreme positions.
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Frank L
- 7:27pm 8/11/19
Call it what you will. They do necessary work that many people don't appreciate. Like ACLU of old.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:19pm 8/11/19
And like the ACLU of old they often take extreme positions. The ACLU constantly fought even
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Frank L
- 9:11pm 8/11/19
The NRA has accepted and supported many reasonable limits. For example, the ban on automatic weapons
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NedoftheHill
- 9:19pm 8/11/19
Back then they were a sportsman’s group. Of course they weren’t in favor of full military weapons.
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Frank L
- 9:26pm 8/11/19
And they still are not in favor of civilian ownership of full military weapons like M-16s.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:35pm 8/11/19
Well that sure shows reasonableness. I take it they are against bazookas and BAR’s also?
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Frank L
- 9:52pm 8/11/19
Yes, they do oppose machine guns. As I said, they are far more limiting than Switzerland.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:54pm 8/11/19
Very reasonable folks.
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Frank L
- 9:59pm 8/11/19
The NRA. On some things I do. On their reasonableness, I don’t.
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Frank L
- 12:43am 8/12/19
Responds to Ned below.
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Frank L
- 12:44am 8/12/19
Does it hurt you to know that you agree with them?
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NedoftheHill
- 10:45pm 8/11/19
Yep, my father had been a member since his childhood.
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iairishcheeks
- 6:14pm 8/11/19
AR's are the types of guns most protected by the 2nd Amendment. Others are secondary.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:25pm 8/11/19
So, he became a communist gun-grabber?
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MAS
- 7:17pm 8/11/19
Still have my grand dad’s card from the late 30’s.
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Frank L
- 6:53pm 8/11/19
Since when is the Second Amendment an unlimited right?
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conorlarkin
- 2:31pm 8/11/19
You think constitutional rights can be limited based on popularity at any one point in time?!
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BaronVonZemo
- 7:22pm 8/11/19
“Popularity” is the wrong term. The Supreme Court has relied on evolving social science.
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conorlarkin
- 8:00pm 8/11/19
Surely you wouldn't use the limit on shouting fire in a theater to limit political speech?
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NedoftheHill
- 8:21pm 8/11/19
Are you seriously equating mass shootings via high capacity firearms with political speech?
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conorlarkin
- 8:27pm 8/11/19
Actually, that is what your side does: equate speech with violence. I'm not doing that.
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NedoftheHill
- 9:32pm 8/11/19
The US Supreme Court decides the boundaries of constitutional rights.
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conorlarkin
- 9:50pm 8/11/19
You miss my point. Intentionally I assume. But, you understand it, since you stopped arguing yours.
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NedoftheHill
- 10:48pm 8/11/19
My point is backed by Supreme Court case law. Your point is lost on even yourself.
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conorlarkin
- 5:24am 8/12/19
Your new point? I wasn't arguing that.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:39am 8/12/19
My belief is the SCOTUS should interpret our laws, not rewrite them. That was how it was set up.
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BaronVonZemo
- 6:24am 8/12/19
Are you aware that the Supreme Court’s primary role is to interpret the US Constitution?
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conorlarkin
- 11:38am 8/12/19
That is a more controversial statement than you indicate.
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NedoftheHill
- 11:42am 8/12/19
Only controversial for the 5% right wing whack jobs.
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conorlarkin
- 12:10pm 8/12/19
We've ever seen you this deep in a thread before. And not relying on links! Good for you!
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NedoftheHill
- 8:57pm 8/12/19
Hmm. Perhaps since free speech was an unlimited right...and freedom of religion. Why ask me that?
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NedoftheHill
- 3:17pm 8/11/19
Exception being a woman's right to choose, eh Ned.
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ND521
- 2:22pm 8/11/19
Conor is curious: Since when has any person's right to choose to act been an unlimited right?
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NedoftheHill
- 3:20pm 8/11/19
They are subject to regulation though and the mood in the nation is shifting. There will be more of
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Frank L
- 1:56pm 8/11/19
I agree: The nature of gov't is to limit rights, & the gov't has almost infinite attempts to do so.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:03pm 8/11/19
Struggling to reconcile your 'commie' comment with your bootlicking of a cowardly Russian asset.
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ND521
- 12:45pm 8/11/19
Guess you are a clueless struggling nitwit
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CC72
- 3:42pm 8/11/19
Struggling to reconcile your post with the fact that you are doing the Russian's bidding...
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NedoftheHill
- 1:49pm 8/11/19
Yeah, right. You should try Deep Breathing for relaxation.
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golfernot
- 2:08pm 8/11/19
You can't deny that you serve Russia's interests by trying to weaken an elected US president.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:23pm 8/11/19
Orange doesn't need my "help" in serving Russia's interests.
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golfernot
- 4:55pm 8/11/19
And yet, you insist on doing Putie's bidding. Go figure.
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NedoftheHill
- 5:08pm 8/11/19
Heh.
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Frank L
- 5:03pm 8/11/19
I read 'Deep State Breathing', still laughing.
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ND521
- 2:25pm 8/11/19