Ah. Now I understand. This would have been a better way to say it.

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Ah. Now I understand. This would have been a better way to say it.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:16 pm on Aug 14, 2019

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Unemployment trended down under Obama from a Recession peak of 10% to about 4.7% when Trump was elected. In nearly three years since Trump was elected, it's gone down about 1%.

Again, it didn't have far to go, which cuts two ways. 1) It would have been hard for it to go much lower under Trump (or any president); and 2) it's not much different than it was when Trump was elected.

The 10% recession peak was still in the first year of Obama's presidency. It was 9% in April of 2009. I'm not sure using 7.8% (from January, 2009) is any kind of fair measure, but it would still have been 3.1% reduction in unemployment, despite having a huge recession in motion.

The link shows the data in its naked glory. If anyone can detect a turnaround in 2017, well then good for them.

Link: https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

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Replies to: "Ah. Now I understand. This would have been a better way to say it."

Was thinking that if lowering unemployment from 4.7 to 3.7% is considered the Orange miracle, - Frank L - 5:47pm 8/13/19 (41) [View All]
- Reality is not like your linear thinking & baby math. Growing economy is like climbing mountain. You - Eli - 7:40pm 8/13/19
  - Gibberish alert. [NT] - Frank L - 7:41pm 8/13/19
    - Ok, You wanna be a total ass. Let me say this: you're such a liar. Obama started from 7.3% - Eli - 8:02pm 8/13/19
      - yeah it went from 10 to 4.7. And the 10 in the first year was a result of the Bush recession. - Frank L - 10:27pm 8/13/19
        Really? Why didn't you use 4.1 of 12/2017(DJT 1st yr), instead you used 4.7 of 12/2016 in your math? [NT] - Eli - 12:18am 8/14/19
        Which would give Obama credit for all of his first year? Fine, that means Orange has lowered it - Frank L - 12:59am 8/14/19
        Facing exposed inconsistency & Incoherent data, you have no shame on your lie. [NT] - Eli - 1:34pm 8/14/19
        Gibberish alert. [NT] - Frank L - 1:36pm 8/14/19
- I’m wondering why my employees healthcare insurance sucks since Obamacare - PBHangingChad - 7:19pm 8/13/19
  - Relevance to unemployment? Orange also has let it hang with zero replacement options on the table. [NT] - Frank L - 7:28pm 8/13/19
    - You were touting Obama’s success I’m reminding you of his failures which are more damaging - PBHangingChad - 7:36pm 8/13/19
      - Actually no, what I’m trying to do is to remind you bots that around or less than 3% growth and a 1 - Frank L - 7:41pm 8/13/19
        I’m willing to acknowledge your support for Barry. But he fucked small business with Obamacare. So - PBHangingChad - 7:58pm 8/13/19
        Again complete non sequitor. And if he did, what has his replacement done to correct it, zero. [NT] - Frank L - 10:34pm 8/13/19
        Nothing, but Obama fucked small business healthcare and the progressives will finish us off. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 11:53pm 8/13/19
        Why are you arguing this strawman? I’m not disagreeing with you. [NT] - Frank L - 1:00am 8/14/19
        I think I will save a link to this post. :-) [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:56am 8/14/19
        What some here don’t get is that fiscally I am more conservative than most bots. I am also for the - Frank L - 11:02am 8/14/19
        I suspect I'm more fiscally conservative than you. - NedoftheHill - 11:44am 8/14/19
        Perhaps. - Frank L - 12:32pm 8/14/19
- I've made this point every time someone claims that Trump rescued our economy from Obama. [NT] - LehighND - 5:49pm 8/13/19
  - I've made the point every time when you made your point: QEs & near-zero interest rate. [NT] - Eli - 7:45pm 8/13/19
    - They sure helped. - LehighND - 8:04pm 8/13/19
  - . [NT] - LehighND - 5:58pm 8/13/19
    - Bean counters like you don't understand context. Google "Obama magic wand." [NT] - Cole - 5:59pm 8/13/19
      - You mean the context difference in inheriting a healthy economy versus one with 10% unemployment? [NT] - Frank L - 6:02pm 8/13/19
        See Eli above. Funny how Lehigh was quick to join your erroneous post. [NT] - Cole - 9:24pm 8/13/19
        You think that rise to 10 during the first year wasn’t a result of the Bush recession? Fool. [NT] - Frank L - 10:30pm 8/13/19
        Help me out. Which erroneous post of yours was I quick to join? [NT] - LehighND - 11:59pm 8/13/19
        That the 10% unemployment figure didn’t occur until later in Barry’s first year as if that makes - Frank L - 10:36am 8/14/19
        Ah. Now I understand. This would have been a better way to say it. [LINK] - LehighND - 4:16pm 8/14/19
        
        Much harder to improve a healthy economy. Good point. - NedoftheHill - 7:19pm 8/13/19
        It didn’t go from 10 to 9. Orange also artificially juiced it with a huge corporate tax cut. - Frank L - 7:27pm 8/13/19
        You said it was at 10%, not I. I just used your hypothetical. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:36pm 8/13/19
        It was but it went to 4.7. [NT] - Frank L - 10:28pm 8/13/19
        Great! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:39am 8/14/19
        
        Why do I think the "Obama magic wand" google results might miss that? [NT] - LehighND - 6:04pm 8/13/19
        You took a break from counting coal miners in OH to get unemployment facts wrong. Sad. [NT] - Cole - 9:26pm 8/13/19
        Maybe you can help me out. What unemployment facts did I get wrong? [NT] - LehighND - 12:00am 8/14/19
- Umm, what? [NT] - CC72 - 5:48pm 8/13/19
  - You guys are fast. [NT] - Frank L - 5:51pm 8/13/19